Zelenskys chief of staff stated that the purpose of the invasion of Kursk was to allow Ukraine to negotiate with Russia on its own terms.
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@LukeAlmighty because its delusional
@Terry
I think, that the wording is dellulu, but the concept is solid.
@LukeAlmighty they're gonna look pretty stupid when they are finally expelled from Russia.
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@LukeAlmighty @Terry Unsound military strategy. If the Ukrainian army defends in Ukraine it will have a defender's advantage. If it goes on an offensive in Russia (and there is nothing significant to capture) it will have an attackers disadvantage.
@LukeAlmighty @Terry They have to wage the war on the defensive until they gain the upper hand in the force exchange ratio, otherwise they only increase their disadvantage. Go back to reddit, you're too dumb for fedi.
@dubbub @LukeAlmighty I think he's forgetting that Russia has only committed a fraction of its armed forces to the war and by invading Russia proper like this you're just kicking over a hornets nest.
@LukeAlmighty @dubbub from what I understand the operation was planned months ago way before the Russians invaded the Kharkov region. Most of the troops were trained in the UK and other western countries, and we've seen how basic that training is and they are all using western gear and vehicles which they only have a limited supply of.
The operation was doomed to failure even before the Kharkov front was opened up and now it can only hope to achieve a short term PR victory which ultimately will be eclipsed by Russian victories in the donbass.
The operation was doomed to failure even before the Kharkov front was opened up and now it can only hope to achieve a short term PR victory which ultimately will be eclipsed by Russian victories in the donbass.
@Terry @LukeAlmighty @dubbub Ukraine hasn’t managed to slow the Russian advance in the Donbass, and there’s no reason to believe they’ll hold onto these gains in Kursk. When Russia pushes them back and continues to advance in the Donbass, it’ll be over for them. That’s why they attempted this.
@Griffith @Terry @LukeAlmighty @dubbub When you send your hero in to kill peons at the enemy gold mine, you're supposed to bring a scroll of town portal.
@Terry @LukeAlmighty @dubbub It gives Russia the internal justification to call up their standing army, and not just Wagner as a "special operation." I sure hope it was worth the headlines, what absolute suicide otherwise.
@0 @LukeAlmighty @dubbub former Wagner soldiers are already fighting in Kursk. They've been incorporated into the army and classified as SF.
@Terry @LukeAlmighty @0 @dubbub it's over for Russia. This time it's really over. Not like all the other 10s of times it was supposed to be over. What we see on display is the effectiveness of western weapons. All the critique of the weapons being largely useless and easily destroyed was AI imagery. The images of people being forced to the front dragged from street was Russian actors
@Terry @LukeAlmighty @dubbub I mean that their pool of troops went from like 900k to like 3m, instantly, and that's before reactive conscription.
@Terry @LukeAlmighty Russia has reserves. The Ukrainians know that Russia has reserves - this spoiling attack was about preempting their attack - so this offensive was always going to be contained.
Every day both sides take casualties. If Ukraine stays defending they will take fewer. All this is, is opening up another grind which doesn't favor Ukraine, when Ukraine is running out of meat to grind (and Russia isn't by a long shot). Simple as that.
Every day both sides take casualties. If Ukraine stays defending they will take fewer. All this is, is opening up another grind which doesn't favor Ukraine, when Ukraine is running out of meat to grind (and Russia isn't by a long shot). Simple as that.
@LukeAlmighty @dubbub @Terry Ukraine is materially and manpower wise completely out-classed. Most of its material assets were donated by increasingly pissed off Western taxpayers to boot. It's unsustainable.
Throwing away precious reserves on a pointless raid-in-force into essentially worthless borderland was retarded.
They lacked the air superiority and reliable logistics/reserves to support an attempted Blitzkreig. A strategy that is almost a century old now and was largely considered defunct before the Cold War even began in earnest. And that is even assuming they had a proper sized force. As we're seeing their headlong advance has already been stalled and rolled back. Now they're trying to dig in. These forces will like the rest of the AFU, be pinned down and degraded just in time to see Russia's main forces in the Donbass spread out into open, unprepared country heading towards Zaporizhzhia, at which point the occupied tiny portion of the Kursk region goes from strategically irrelevant to strategically precarious (for Ukraine) to say the least, since that's rare forces that could be better spent trying to cover the approaches deeper into Ukraine.
The time for Ukraine to use its military to improve its negotiating position was sometime between the start of the invasion and when Avdiivka fell.
Ukraine's one advantage is it had enough manpower to drag things out, and yes, bleed Russia bit. That advantage is now all but gone. The country's population has dropped (for all reasons) so much that it's up there with Black Death effects on Europe as a whole in scale.
Ukraine is staring down a full blown unironic volksturm scenario. Old men and little boys. Oh and women, yay Liberalism!
There will be no negotiations with terms favorable to Ukraine, and Zelensky is the epitome of a retarded Jew if he thinks otherwise.
Throwing away precious reserves on a pointless raid-in-force into essentially worthless borderland was retarded.
They lacked the air superiority and reliable logistics/reserves to support an attempted Blitzkreig. A strategy that is almost a century old now and was largely considered defunct before the Cold War even began in earnest. And that is even assuming they had a proper sized force. As we're seeing their headlong advance has already been stalled and rolled back. Now they're trying to dig in. These forces will like the rest of the AFU, be pinned down and degraded just in time to see Russia's main forces in the Donbass spread out into open, unprepared country heading towards Zaporizhzhia, at which point the occupied tiny portion of the Kursk region goes from strategically irrelevant to strategically precarious (for Ukraine) to say the least, since that's rare forces that could be better spent trying to cover the approaches deeper into Ukraine.
The time for Ukraine to use its military to improve its negotiating position was sometime between the start of the invasion and when Avdiivka fell.
Ukraine's one advantage is it had enough manpower to drag things out, and yes, bleed Russia bit. That advantage is now all but gone. The country's population has dropped (for all reasons) so much that it's up there with Black Death effects on Europe as a whole in scale.
Ukraine is staring down a full blown unironic volksturm scenario. Old men and little boys. Oh and women, yay Liberalism!
There will be no negotiations with terms favorable to Ukraine, and Zelensky is the epitome of a retarded Jew if he thinks otherwise.
@LukeAlmighty @dubbub @Terry If I was the Ukrainian high command, and I was pitching the offensive to Zelensky, I would compare it to the Tet Offensive. It won’t be successful. It’s already slowing down. However, if it erodes support at home, and creates calls to end the war, it’ll be advantageous. If it doesn’t, the amount of men and material lost in Kursk won’t be significant enough to have turned the tide in Donbass anyway. If they do hold onto that territory, which is impossible, but if they did, they would have a strong card, because Putin won’t give up Russian land no matter what.
@Griffith @LukeAlmighty @Terry The VC could afford the Tet Offensive, the Ukrainians can't. Putin won't negotiate for Russian land, it would be akin to blackmail and a show of weakness. The only way Ukraine can negotiate is by biting Russia's foot and then assuming the supplicant position so that Russia can both avoid casualties and save face. That's how you negotiate with a superior enemy.
