Question stolen from Twitter:
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?

my choice and rationale 

my choice and rationale:



Blue button because it’s the superior moral choice. Moreover, the red button world becomes shithole tier hell with all of the genuinely cooperative people eliminated. High trust is gone and you have global izzat chicanery. May God have mercy on red buttoners.

re: my choice and rationale 

@BowsacNoodle @LukeAlmighty But Bowsac, if everyone presses the red button, everyone lives. The blue button is just the “maybe I die” button.
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re: my choice and rationale 

@Griffith @BowsacNoodle
> If an absurd hypothetical, that literally never happened....

But it didn't happen, and you knew it won't. So, pressinng red is the selfish option, and you knew it would be.

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re: my choice and rationale 

@LukeAlmighty @BowsacNoodle No I didn’t. If everyone knows red button pressers are guaranteed to survive, we can just all agree to press the red button. Since there’s no upside to the blue button, everyone presses red, and everyone survives.

re: my choice and rationale 

@Griffith @BowsacNoodle
Do you understand the concept of world existing outside of your "everyone agrees with me" framework?

re: my choice and rationale 

@LukeAlmighty @BowsacNoodle Well sure, but there’s a guaranteed good outcome present that only requires people to think in their self-interest anyway. It’s a tough situation, but since there’s no way to guarantee everyone pushes blue, the only safe option is for everyone to push red. If someone pushed blue, I would simply not understand why they did that.

@Griffith @BowsacNoodle
Pressing red assumes that everyone is as selfish as you, or that people are not worth saving.

Pressing blue is hoping that at least 50% of people are good people.

@LukeAlmighty @BowsacNoodle but you have to put your life on the line with that. If you press red, and everyone pushes red, everyone gets out of the dilemma. There’s no potential bad outcome if everyone pushes red.

@Griffith @BowsacNoodle
There is no potential bad outcome, if everyone pushes blue either.

Do you seriously not see, that you wrote a tautology?
You wrote a "there is no bad outcome in 0.001% of cases" while I said that there is no bad outcome if just 50% of people are good.

@Griffith @BowsacNoodle
And yes, I know, that the entire question is a framing issue, but a truly interesting one.

@LukeAlmighty @BowsacNoodle It is interesting, but to me the risk of the blue bad outcome is so vast, that the safest option is everyone voting red.
Imagine if 51% of people vote red? That’s the end of the world. If blue wins that’s a feel-good moral victory, but we have a perfect solution.
If the titanic is sinking, but we have enough lifeboats for everyone, why doesn’t everyone just get in a lifeboat? No one has to be left behind or risk anything.

@Griffith @BowsacNoodle
And that worst outcome is exactly, where your thought process lead us to though :D

@LukeAlmighty @BowsacNoodle True, but I can't guarentee that the Titanic doesn't hit the iceberg, I can only guarentee there's a lifeboat for everyone.
>Imagine if 51% of people vote red? That’s the end of the world.
if 80% of people vote red, that’s the end of the world. Blue would partly be made up of suicidal/people doing it for the lolz, but the majority would be people who feel morally bad about contributing to the death of others. Humanity would be worse off without those people. In a big way.
@BowsacNoodle @LukeAlmighty I'm not gonna join a suicide pact for people who can't read a question.
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