"I turned off my webcam so I'm saving the planet!"

She says, holding her coffee mug with both hands, the furnace cranked up to 80, Disney+ on and muted in the background (so she has something to look at during the video call), a dozen cookies in the oven, having forgotten to turn off all the lights, right after her 45 minute long hot shower.

Oh, and that computer runs 4 electron apps 24/7, even the 18 hours a day she's not using that computer.

But she's really proud about those webcam savings.

@r000t
Sometimes I can't believe people could really be that stupid...

@icedquinn @r000t
Sure, that's gonna be the big issue. Not the dozen ram guzzling Chrome tabs, not the complete mess of unoptimized crap apps pass for these days, not Windows' bloat, nah, it's gonna be the video encoding of a low bitrate 720p video, that can be done through the GPU, that is the big problem.

@alyx @r000t they used to try and put dedicated encoding hardware in those although whether you can make use of them varies greatly.

do you happen to know if webshit actually even uses nvenc

and transmitting+mixing (if its a mixing server, which they try to move away from now because of the compute)+decoding isn't trivial either.
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>do you happen to know if webshit actually even uses nvenc

I guess the real question there is how much of the GPU's hardware acceleration capabilities can browsers access.

Although, if you use webshit for video conferencing, instead of actual installable software, the issue goes back to using unoptimized crap and ram guzzling tabs in my view.
I forgot to put bloated, badly made websites into the original list. Webshit conferencing would also qualify.

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@alyx @r000t i think most of the conferencing is webshit because of zoom's inexplicable popularity.

and then people looking for zoom alternatives are going to other webshit.

not a lot of conversation about xmpp+jingle or SIP.

WebRTC is actually not bad though.
@icedquinn @r000t @alyx
> WebRTC is actually not bad though.

Even considering that there is basically only one implementation of WebRTC used in production (at least for the browser/client side of things) and it's in that kind of shitty repo https://webrtc.googlesource.com/src/ ?
@lanodan @alyx @r000t i compiled janus recently and it didn't come from google.
@lanodan @alyx @r000t it's somewhat SCTP-over-DTLS-over-UDP which we could just avoid if ISPs were beaten over the head repeatedly until they allowed us to use native SCTP :blobcatcomfangery:
@icedquinn
Zoom had the right name at the right time, imo.
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