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menu bars belong global at the top of the screen. :blobcatknife:

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@pasture @icedquinn
So like Gnome3 tried to do it. From my experience, that becomes a pain in the but fast. Seems nice at first, but it's horrible when you have multiple smaller windows, and need to work with the menu in each of them. There's a lot more mouse movement and clicks suddenly taking place.

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@alyx @pasture true but contemplate why is there a separate menu in each window.

the global menu at top is objectively superior and has been proven so scientifically. it has an infinitely low navigation distance (all 4 corners of the screen do, because slamming the mouse gets you there with no nimbleness), takes up less space, and the user always knows where it is.

if you see well designed mac software (and well, the amiga did it too) it’s not really a problem. it’s only a problem when you try to hack it like that one gtk patch but people still design the UI like donkeys.

re: religion 

@alyx @pasture something like Blender I guess; if the software is that obscenely complicated there might be no way out of having menus all over the UI :cirno_think:
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@icedquinn @pasture
You're confusing things. I've barely used Blender in my life, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have windows, it has panels. A more window focused program is default Gimp, and it sucks, until you unify it's interface to be more Photoshop like.

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