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@TheMadPirate @Nonetrix
I love how you people miss the point when talking to terfs... They're biological fundamentalists. For them gender = sex and that's it. They don't make the same distinction between the two that you probably do.
@IRLStreamer @Nonetrix @TheMadPirate
Did I state ANYWHERE that I love trannies? I was just educating people on why they'll inevitably fail at arguing with a terf about the topic.
Cuck, they would have to literally not leave the house to do zero impact to children and society at large (aka impossible). Stop taking bad lolbert type arguments.
That's because you do not know me.
I do that all time.
Things like :
"I wouldn't have a problem becoming a communist AS LONG AS they prove me a) that Marxist theory has no unfalsifiable hypothesis and b) Marx's theory has never been falsified by empirical evidence" or "I wouldn't have any issues dating a modern strong independent woman AS LONG AS a) she is not hysteric, b) she is not a narcissist and b) she is not insecure".
I know exactly what I am doing there.
That is a thought experiment that makes them have to prove an unprovable claim, it is the opposite of what you are doing in the tranny situation. In the situation you are making YOURSELF have to prove a unprovable claim (prove that at all time trannies are degrading society in every various situation to have the moral argument that trannies hurt children/society) you are willingly backing yourself into that position to be clever.
the entire point is that THEY CAN'T PROVE THAT, not without ADMITTING they are purposefully harming people.
They don't have to prove it, you do since you made the moral argument that you will accept trannies if they aren't causing harm. That makes YOU have to prove they are causing harm. In your marxist example THEY have to prove that marxism leads to the utopia they claim.
@philmchawk @IRLStreamer @Nonetrix @alyx
In your marxist example THEY have to prove that marxism leads to the utopia they claim.
Show me a single Marxist on Earth than can do that. Show me. I’ll wait.
I said that marxist example was a example of a good argument frame work, now compare that to your tranny one.
@philmchawk @IRLStreamer @Nonetrix @alyx As I said, is like me saying “I wouldn’t blow the head of a commie AS LONG AS they do not try to take away private property”.
... which allows them to do anything short of that. Again your marxist example is the way to go, "prove to me that you can make the uptopia you claim without me giving up anything", simple as.
@philmchawk @Nonetrix @TheMadPirate @IRLStreamer
You seem to fail to understand that a commie by definition will try to take your property
Of course, but why give any ground? Why give them anything but property? Why not cut them off at the very beginning by requiring them to show they can create utopias without you giving up anything?
@philmchawk @alyx @IRLStreamer @Nonetrix That’s the WHOLE POINT of that statement !
@TheMadPirate @Nonetrix @IRLStreamer @philmchawk
He won't get it. You might as well ignore him.
@alyx @Nonetrix @IRLStreamer @philmchawk He thinks I can “care about the group”. Sorry,but my empathy is not high enough to “care”.
@alyx @Nonetrix @IRLStreamer @philmchawk The issue with this people is that all the time they talk about “sacrifice” and “caring” for the group, but they can never prove me what do I personally and individually gain from doing that. In other words “what do I gain from helping you?” , if I get no net benefit, why should I help your group in the first place ?.
You can give countless examples but at the end of the day the way the world works in your mind is imaginary (some mysticial land where everyone just does whatever they want while not affecting you and you are king trillionaire that doesn't have to worry about the heroin needles on the ground or people shitting in the streets). It is pointless to argue with lolberts but you are arguing against their imagination. The only time your philosophy ever even semi worked was when America was being settled (and even then you would have been scalped by a red) because everyone was so spread apart, besides that it has never and will never work.
@alyx @philmchawk @Nonetrix @IRLStreamer That’s EXACTLY the whole point.