@Terry
Thing is, I like the idea of going green, zero-carbon, renewable, however you want to call it. But a lot of the tech is not where it needs to be yet. To make an analogy, it feels like we're currently driving Ferrari's, and they're trying to convince me we can get to our destination faster by riding a scooter.

Besides nuclear and hydroelectric, I'm not sure any of them give a better recovery on investment than fossil fuels, and to fix the unreliable nature of wind and solar, you need massive battery storage, that while apparently is very doable now, I have my doubts anyone actually acknowledges the environmental impact of actually making those batteries.

@Terry
If any of these nutjobs actually primarily promoted nuclear and hydroelectric energy as alternatives to fossil fuels, I'd probably instantly fall in love with them.

Instead they want wind energy, which frankly might actually be the absolute worst thing to try to deploy on mass, and solar, that while it does tickle my nerd side, once you read up on the actual efficiency of photovoltaic panels, and how fast it actually drops after deployment, it's basically guaranteed to depress you on the technology.