What's your honest reaction to the SCOTUS ruling overturning Roe v. Wade and declaring that abortion should be left up to the states to set policy for?
I'm option #2. I do feel for the women forced to have kids they didn't want and weren't ready for, but I also know there is no constitutional right to abortion.
@dave sure women should have a right to make the decision but the reason they are citing for NEEDING an overreaching abortion law is because SO many women are raped or have children of incest or otherwise was forced on them when in actual fact that's not the case at all and to pretend the needs of the perceived many outweigh the needs of the actual few is pretty dumb and this is why i dont support it. more than 70% are elective. just because you "dont want it" isnt enough justification
This chart is misleading. What's going on here is that 75% of the women chose not to answer the question on the survey.

To figure out the true distribution of motivations for the abortion, you would look at what percentage of the 25% that responded selected, which means ~80% chose to get an abortion for social/economic reasons, i.e. they weren't ready to have a kid.
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I disagree with your interpretation. There are plenty of women that simply don't want to have the baby, without what we'd consider a valid reason (so not even for social/economic reasons).

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If she doesn't want the kid and is forced to give a "why?" answer, it's going to be something like I'd classify "I don't want to go through the hardship of pregnancy and spent the next 20 years raising this kid" though.

Given that the vast majority of abortions are 1st-trimester (most common week is week 8 I think), and in most states you can't just say "I don't want it" once the baby has reached that stage of development where it has a meaningful capacity to feel pain, I'd still say that reason is valid provided we're acknowledging that what's "valid" depends on how far along the pregnancy is.
@alyx @dave @graf like who? there are also plenty of women that *do* have a valid socioeconomic reason. anecdotal statements like that mean nothing. what you consider a valid reason means nothing. it’s not your life, you’re not making that decision.

i also chose option 2. i recognize that the decision today was more about states’ rights and less about abortion as a whole, but as usual, we just can’t let the opportunity to argue about abortion slip by.

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You and Dave seemingly want to pretend that there aren't women out there that are completely horrible and that would abort a baby for only selfish reasons, not because they can't take care of it. Please don't be that kind of person that refuses to accept reality, just because it's not in their favor. You have plenty of cases of this in the US, and you can find them on twitter "shouting" their abortions.

As for my position on all this, I think abortions are highly immoral. The only thing that excuses it for me is if the parents are simply unfit to have the baby at that time, so socio-economical reasons. Wanting your precious career advancement is not that. It's selfish and inexcusable. That's not a valid reason for me. Same goes for "well I don't feel like it".
Rape and incest cases are pretty clear cut. You're traumatizing the women if you force her to carry. And medical necessities are again clear cut.

That being said, I wouldn't put a blanket ban on abortions. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna accept a woman that doesn't have a good reason for doing it.

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