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2+2=4 is a scientific consensus.
If you can't wrap your brain around that, and if you insist that "science doesn't work by consensus!" then you don't understand the scientific process.

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@alyx

On the contrary, mathematical and scientific truths do not yield one bit to consensus. If they did, then the earth would be the center of the universe, doctors would only study humoral theory, and pi would equal 22/7. The scientific process serves to get closer to the truth in spite of consensus.

@Beef
And this my friend is you proving to not understand what scientific consensus is. Scientific consensus is not opinion. Scientific consensus in this context is measuring a pile of 2 apples, measuring another pile of 2 apples, putting the piles together, measuring the result and discovering you have a pile of 4 apples; and then doing this experiment over and over again, and discovering over and over again through experimentation that 2+2=4.

@alyx

My friend, I got confused, so I looked up consensus in two dictionaries, and got these definitions:

consensus: an opinion or position reached by a group as a whole

consensus: collective judgment or belief; solidarity of opinion

@Beef
Now if only I would have been more clear, and written "SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS" all over the place, to make it clear over and over again that we're not talking about the common parlance understanding of "consensus=opinion". "Scientific consensus" is a completely different thing to "consensus", just like "scientific theory" is a different term than just "theory".

English must be a harder language than I thought.

@alyx

There is a grammatical consensus that adjectives modify nouns, but do not fundamentally change their meaning. For example, "yellow" in the term "yellow car" doesn't make the car a boat.

@Beef
Holly shit, you're an actual moron, aren't you. Next up you're gonna argue that immigrants aren't illegal.

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