@alyx @ivesen I’m on Linux too and use it with wine. It just works out of the box. Except maybe visualisations, but I don’t think anyone needs those.

@newt @ivesen
I've moved away from Winamp a long time ago. Well before my switch to Linux even. But I did end up using Foobar2000 with Wine for the longest time.

@alyx @ivesen truly, Linux people have hard times with coming up with a good music player.

@newt @alyx @ivesen all you need, really

@newt @alyx @ivesen ncmpcpp sucks, DeaDBeeF i would have used if they had full feature parity with f2k, but last i checked (years ago) there was an unfixed issue, and i havent bothered retrying because i replaced my tagging with https://beets.io/

so now everything's just commandline purely, mpd's very stable for opus playback

@opal @alyx @ivesen I’m sorry, but my brain isn’t yet infected with loonix to the degree when I’d require my music player to be a system daemon.

@newt @alyx @ivesen i listen to music a lot and it doesn't make sense to me to have a gui up for that, that's all

@newt @alyx @ivesen plus (this is loonix mind in action so it wont apply to you lol) its comfy to have something on if my graphical session decides to fart on me and im forced into a tty for a bit

@opal @alyx @ivesen yeah, same. But then again, winamp works just fine for that and it has cool skins

@opal @ivesen @newt
I'm using deadbeef now, and it's still not even close to feature parity with foobar. And I'm confident it never will be. I don't see enough work being put behind it.
Don't know what issue you're referring to.

@alyx @ivesen @newt had something to do with tagging multiple values like f2k i think, either that or the query syntax, i forget now. that alone was a blocker for me though

@opal @ivesen @newt
Oh... yeah, I haven't really tried to do tagging with deadbeef. I even have issues selecting text in that interface. I'm sure it's borked. I keep around my wine enabled foobar for that.

@opal @alyx @ivesen @newt beets looks very cool

i use audacious and/or quod libet and manually do my tagging with ex false.

@icedquinn @alyx @ivesen @newt i avoided musicbrainz for a while because i didnt like the concept of autotagging, but looking at their tag policies, it's grown on me and i contribute there now

@icedquinn @alyx @ivesen @newt way better than discogs

@alyx @icedquinn @ivesen @newt i need to unironically listen to this album i think it's all just harsh noise https://www.discogs.com/release/6212559

@opal @alyx @ivesen @newt i used picard for a while but the autotagger really just stuffed some shit up deeply wrong at times.

@icedquinn @alyx @ivesen @newt i'd be willing to fix metadata on those albums but i doubt you want to spend effort on digging it up now so i won't ask

@opal @alyx @ivesen @newt it just fingerprinted them to be completely wrong songs, and then tried to sort them in to albums that were wrong.

anymore i pull my music off youtube and manually tag with ex falso, and have r128gain bake the volume adjustment in the opus volume header.

it's heresy but it works.

@icedquinn @alyx @ivesen @newt oh yeah the nice thing about beets, it asks me to confirm that the release is right, and gives me a choice to override it. i wouldn't let the fingerprinting make decisions by itself, it's trash

@opal @ivesen @icedquinn @newt
I personally have trust issues with anything that claims it can autotag. I have too many house/techno remixes that won't be found in any database and are likely to be butchered, and for other stuff, I often have certain criteria I use to manage songs easier.

@alyx they're not as cursed if they are willing to let you hydrate tags that already exist. like i wouldn't mind it using the names i already put there to look up who the lead singer is and adding a performer tag for that. quod libet lets you browse by those.

@opal @ivesen @newt

@alyx @ivesen @icedquinn @newt mate i listen to the most autistic shit believe me https://musicbrainz.org/user/wowaname/edits

@alyx @icedquinn @ivesen @newt first page of edits was me adding my own albums, try https://musicbrainz.org/user/wowaname/edits?page=2

@alyx @icedquinn @ivesen @newt point is, a good portion of my music library is shit you cant even download now, outside of p2p filesharing

@opal @ivesen @icedquinn @newt
Me too. But when some of these things are just a DJ live session recording, they don't really have proper titles.

@alyx @ivesen @icedquinn @newt i mostly just have albums in my library, and the rest i pretty much keep unsorted

@opal @alyx @ivesen @newt

icedquinn@astaraline ~> xbps-query -Rs beets [-] beets-1.6.0_2 Media library management system for obsessive-compulsive m...

@icedquinn @opal @alyx @newt is this a user?

@opal @alyx @ivesen @newt

According to MusicBrainz style, featured artists are part of the artist field. That means that, if you tag your music using MusicBrainz, you’ll have tracks in your library like “Tellin’ Me Things” by the artist “Blakroc feat. RZA”. If you prefer to tag this as “Tellin’ Me Things feat. RZA” by “Blakroc”, then this plugin is for you.

i’ve actually been moving featured artists to the performer field because quod libet indexes those as “people.” so the title is blah ft. bar with bar as a performer so you can find it under either name.

but then i do uh. a little bit of nonstandard tagging

@icedquinn @opal @ivesen @newt
I move the featured artists to title to easily view them, while maintaining compatibility with shitty music programs that don't know how to group by album artist, like they should.

>nonstandard tagging
Oh, I'm sure I have a lot of that. But I don't care. My tagging is my own, to make my life easier.

@icedquinn @alyx @ivesen @newt i prefer the performer tag for featured artists, as well

@alyx @ivesen @newt @opal yeah i just tried to import from youtube and it almost got it right but two tracks are tagged backwards and my options are to accept it or reject the whole batch.

@icedquinn @alyx @ivesen @newt i have been exposed

lol who maintains that package, void is wack

@icedquinn @alyx @ivesen @newt sorry i stand corrected, gentoo does it too

@opal @ivesen @icedquinn @newt
I've been a good boy with anything new I add, and keep them well sorted, tagged, replay-gained, album cover-ed, etc. But some of the old stuff is not necessarily in the best condition, and it's those that are harder to get right, cause they're either individual songs from weird sources, or unofficial TOP 20 from random radio station.

@alyx @ivesen @icedquinn @newt lot of tsundere violence releases are mp3-only and i like having my music library in opus so this makes things more difficult for me :^(

@opal @ivesen @icedquinn @newt
If I have a choice in the matter, my preference goes flac, any-other-lossless, opus, aac, mp3, any-other-lossy. But as far as tagging goes, haven't had many issues with the multitude of formats. Although opus is far from ideal... doesn't technically handle replay-gain correctly and I've had issues with Android where it wouldn't handle embedded covers over a certain size, so I did some resizing.

@alyx @ivesen @icedquinn @newt i listen to opus, archive flac

@opal @alyx @ivesen @newt my tiny player only takes mpegs

speaking of i should set up a script to transcode the library.