@Rasp @WabbityWabbit what the hell is a trans widow?
I have to assume it's not just a trans woman who's a widow...

@mer @WabbityWabbit

The idea is those who married a trans person who was either not out or more likely unaware and then the relationship died when they came out.

@mer @WabbityWabbit basically TERFS who feel like the "Trans" stole their partner. Ya know... assholes.

@Rasp @mer @WabbityWabbit
>Ya know... assholes
I was with you, up until you called random people you know nothing about assholes.
Here's the thing, it's not just that people grief over the collapse of their relationships. It's that everyone around a trans-person is being forced to act as if the individual, prior to transitioning, never existed in the first place. It's the taboo people such as yourself place around recognizing that people like Ellen Page, the Wachowski brothers, or Bruce Jenner ever existed.

Everyone around a trans-person, after coming out, is forced to deny their own memories, experiences or love that existed for the person prior to said coming out, or risk offending the sensibilities of not only the trans-person, but everyone in polite society. They effectively need to act as if the person they knew died, cause otherwise people such as yourself will attack them.

If you cannot comprehend the pain that is caused as a CONSEQUENCE of the environment the trans activists have created, then you need to look at yourself in the mirror, because you're the asshole.

@alyx @Rasp @WabbityWabbit There's an adaptation period, no sane trans person is getting mad if you accidently mix names or pronouns up for a while after they come out. After that, if you stay in contact you're not forgetting the past, you're just seeing them as they are now and being polite about the past.
Getting really hung up on the past is a thing that happens when you cut ties because they come out. You never get to see them change so you never update your mental image of them. Of course it's troubling.
Imagine someone gets clean off heroin and you go around whining that they don't tell everyone that they used to be a junkie.

And yeah, that might make a marriage incompatible. But my straight parents worked out a less spiteful separation than whatever this shit is, despite hating each other.
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>no sane trans person is getting mad
Except trans people do, all the time. And you can't call out any one of them for being inconsiderate, unreasonable or "not sane", because the second you do: "TRANSPHOBE!!!"

>Imagine someone gets clean off heroin and you go around whining that they don't tell everyone that they used to be a junkie.
Not quite the best analogy. Let me fix it for you: Imagine someone barely is clean for a few weeks, and you're supposed to act like they never had a heroin problem. Ever.

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