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@j I'd have to look into these accords, and I honestly don't feel like reading some shitty long ass documents... BUT...

The simple way I still know Crimea is better off with Russia is what Ukraine did after Putin annexed it, that being cutting off their water supply. That single act proves to me one thing: the people of Crimea are not Ukrainians, like Zelensky would want you to believe. You do not try to kill your own people when they get conquered, just to try to spite their conqueror. You only do something like that if you don't consider Crimeans your people to begin with. In which case, you have no claim over the land of Crimea.

The question still remains of the validity of the referendum that was held back then, but honestly, if NATO/EU are so adamant that the vote was fraudulent... ok, fair enough, I'm willing to accept that. But then why didn't you campaign to organize a fair vote for the people of Crimea? Why didn't you cooperate with Russia to organize a referendum that both parties could agree with that it was honest and reflected the true will of the people? You were more than happy to do nothing so you could posture later on that the vote was definitely faked. So that makes me distrust you.

As for the rest of Ukraine... without reading the accords, I wouldn't know if they get broken just by discussing joining NATO, or by actually joining (by signing a treaty). As these things usually go, it could probably be interpreted in a million ways, and I'm not particularly convinced that it justifies Russia's invasion. But since my position is that pretty much that every party involved is to blame for this war as it is today (NATO/EU, Zelensky and Putin)... does it really matter that much?

The war still needs to be stopped ASAP, whatever it takes. If it means half of Ukraine goes bye bye, and Zelensky gets put in the slammer, fine by me.

I don't have any particular feelings towards Ukrainians. They were just kinda there as neighbors, but we don't have either a good, or bad relationship with them. They're just there.
But as the current state of the war, I can't help but see that NATO/EU are basically more than happy to sacrifice and genocide the Ukrainian people in a proxy war with Russia, and that I'm not a fan of. I don't think Ukrainians would have been keeping this going like this if the rest of the world wasn't goading them on.

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