@istvan What "ideology"? And I would never touch any project or distribution that tried to control what packages or functionality existed based off "ideological" disagreements.
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@adiz @istvan@noauthority.social
Not wanting DEI is probably an ideology for them. They likely associate a distaste for progressivism, marxism, socialism, communism, etc., with conservatism (which in their view is fascism of course). So for them not liking DEI=fascist. That's the ideology they proclaim to oppose.
@Humpleupagus @adiz @istvan@noauthority.social
I am so fucking tired of these people honestly. I'm at the point where I want "progressives" either homeless on the streets, in jail, or straight up... no longer existing.
See you are clearly the problem. It doesn't matter if things work as long as we all share a common vision
@thatguyoverthere @Humpleupagus @adiz @istvan@noauthority.social
>It doesn't matter if things work as long as we all share a common vision
This feels pulled straight out from communist propaganda.
@Humpleupagus @adiz @istvan@noauthority.social
They're authoritarians. They can't stand that someone else doesn't have their politics. They think their politics create the best products, and they'll force you to use those products as proof of how good they are. You refusing to switch to Wayland is akin to defying the communist regime. They cannot, and will not, stand for it.
People under soviet communism weren't able to buy western goods not because they couldn't afford them. Not because the west wasn't willing to export them. But because the regime refused to allow its subjects to be exposed to something else they could view as better. They needed the subjects to believe that communist goods were superior. And the only way to do that was to forbid their access to alternatives.
Because if the communist subjects get to see outside goods are better, then they might revolt and overthrow the regime. And we can't have that.
Notice the similarity? You're not allowed to use X11, or XLibre, because it might just lead to people saying "y'all are frauds that are making things worse".
Many European countries were unwilling to trade even with tsarist Russia for reasons varying from fear (big land = big army) to envy (isn’t this lump of land, trade routes and resources too big for one country? (especially if yours is an island one, heh)). Improving trade relations with such a big country meant making an already strong one even stronger – and potentially dangerous (say they don’t want to conquer you today, but what about 50 years from now?). For example, Russia had a grave need in rails and trains, but no company agreed to just produce on order: they wanted TO OWN the business, which would be producing rails and trains in Russia, thus keeping the works outside their country and profits inside. Or how Russia wanted to import Chinese tea, and the seeds were sprinkled with boiling-hot water, which made most of them not produce anything when planted, or those seeds that sprouted, died shortly after that. Trade, like in the sense of large transfer of goods between countries is more complicated, than than going to shop. Large trade is a barter essentially, you exchange your goods for another’s goods, and money play a secondary role, as a measuring scale. While trading goods, you seek to sell something, that is harmless and which cannot be used against you later, you seek to get rid of something less valuable to you, and receive something valuable for you from another. Now it should be understood, that if they want to sell you fruits, fancy clocks and jewellery, asking for money in return, it’s because this is harmless. Fruits will rot, clocks need maintenance (hence spending more money [hands rubbing intensifies]), and jewellery is a dead weight, for if you’re not a trader, but only a consumer, if you ever going to sell it, it will be definitely not in the favourable circumstances for you, and you’ll sell it for cheap anyway. Now from the point of view of the country, that has to use money in trade – because there are no buyers or they are afraid to strengthen you too much – where should it take the extra money form to cover for this trade? All, that Russian empire could export was wheat and linen (primarily), and only because there was always a deficit on the markets. Back in the times of tsars (Rurikids) it was precious and semi-precious gemstones, ermine and sable furs. It was like that since at least 1550s. And Soviet Russia inherited that same seat in world disposition. What could it do? Locking within itself seemed more optimal, since now was the chance to build the country wihtout the heavy bureaucracy of the tsarist regime and since nobody helped Russia for free, ever. In the 1920s – 1930s there were built numerous plants, entire industry branches have emerged, the country has seen electricity and radio for the first time. Hopes were big, that the progress will not stop. It could continue, if the revisionists didn’t take over the country in the 1950s to gradually reverse what was done towards socialism and bring the country back to capitalist world. Is it better? The result is behind my window and in my kitchen closet: when I have to clean a kettle, I use vinegar and boiling it for 15 minutes makes the kitchen smell like some alchemist’s laboratory, while back in the days I had a store of adipic acid, which cleaned fast and had no smell. But alas, the factory which produced it, is no more, because the world needs a market to sell their goods to, not yet another producer. What a surprise. Oh, by the way, do you remember about the asbestos and freon hoaxes? Like, “they’re bad, as long as Russian plants are producing them, but if those plants are not around any more, then these things can be allowed again”?
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@Frondeur @Humpleupagus @adiz @istvan@noauthority.social
Well... Carving tools out of bone is a lost art I suppose... so... congrats?
