@matrix

Im not into lolis at all but its just basic logic that victimless alternatives like drawings and sex dolls reduce the demand for actual children to be victimised by offering a legal and ethical outlet without a victim.

But people just ban the ethical alternatives out of an emotional reaction. While ignoring the consequences of their actions.

They are the same as the people who think violent videogames cause violence. Despite violent crime rates having fallen.

@Publius @matrix
> basic logic
> No foundation provided that could explain this prediction
@cereal @Publius @matrix
> They are the same as the people who think violent videogames cause violence.
> Despite violent crime rates having fallen.

Drawing a parallel to another claim of fiction influencing personality.
Looks like a decent foundation to me, and it's pretty basic.

Is your post ironic?

@SystemSock @matrix @cereal

Child predators disgust me, don't get me wrong. But unfortunately they are always going to exist and making something illegal doesn't stop it happening. No matter how large your woodchipper is.

So offering an outlet for them to vent their desires before a child rape happens seems a far better outcome than punishing them after they have raped a child or filmed a video of a real life naked child.

@Publius @SystemSock @matrix @cereal Nope

If you give an outlet to this, you are condoning those feelings. Simple as. They need to be attracted only to sexually mature people or be executed.

@natsock @Publius @SystemSock @cereal @matrix

That’s one of the most retarded things I’ve ever read. It’s the same logic feminists use to try to ban adult sex dolls: it might stimulate misogynist behavior because dolls can’t consent. It’s pure female “logic”, aka no logic at all but emotion-led decision making.

@MrNobody @natsock @Publius @SystemSock @cereal @matrix

> That’s one of the most retarded things I’ve ever read. It’s the same logic feminists use to try to ban adult sex dolls:

It's not.
At least not nearly as obviously as you make it out to be.

You can observe the dimming of a stimulus over pretty much every human endeavor that involves any stimuli.

Drug users need to up their dosage.
Connoisseurs of every stripe get ever more excentric in their tastes. ( food , wine, music, clothes, tatoos)
And yes, perverts sink deeper the more they indulge.

Now peddlers of pornography will deny the last point and psychologists of the freudian persuasion will too, so will "sexologists",
BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE FUCKING PERVERTS THEMSELVES!

( i'm serious, show me a psychologist without a lose screw )

@mute_city @Publius @SystemSock @cereal @matrix @natsock So? If that’s the case they’ll buy another doll. Are we gonna play minority report now because every single action a person take might lead them into a “criminal pipeline”?? It’s completely irrational.

@MrNobody @Publius @SystemSock @cereal @matrix @natsock

> Are we gonna play minority report now because every single action a person take might lead them into a “criminal pipeline”??

Why always these ridiculous hyperboles?
You don't need anything drastic.
Unless personal freedom is a god you pray to you just say no as a society to all pedo stuff.

In order to not surveil everyone who might be a ticking bomb you DISCRIMINATE against the entire group that has those bombs in them and don't give them their fetish fuel.
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@mute_city @matrix @Publius @natsock @MrNobody @cereal @SystemSock Why isn't this enforced with something like "hardcore porn and/or bdsm => real life rape"

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