@Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311 I'm not going to try and decipher your facebook mom platitudes

@applejack @KayFaraday @Atma311

yes, and I know why.

@Emperor1 @applejack @Atma311 or you could rephrase your position

@KayFaraday @applejack @Atma311

first perform step one

@Emperor1 @applejack @Atma311 how is love a gateway drug to pedophilia

@KayFaraday @applejack @Atma311

the idea of gateway drug is incorrect in itself in regard to any love

gateway x is a term used by repressive types to increase their repression of others

@Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311
>the idea of gateway drug is incorrect in itself in regard to any love
Why? X thing can lead to X++

>gateway x is a term used by repressive types to increase their repression of others
And? If it's a bad thing, then repressing it is a good thing.

@applejack @KayFaraday @Atma311

but the assumption is that it is a bad thing

this has to be proven

if it is a good thing then repressing it will have bad results

@Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311 Pedophilia isn't a bad thing

@applejack @KayFaraday @Atma311

if based on free choice

@applejack @Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311

I agree.

this was a weird thread that made me think two different people were antis and then a little bit later made me think both those people were actually pro-map and now I'm confused.

@applejack @Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311

upon reflection I think you were both just arguing that being a lolicon makes you a pedo and that's fine. which, yeah based.

@applejack @Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311 uh yes it is

@jeffcliff @applejack @KayFaraday @Atma311

uh, prove it

@Emperor1 @Atma311 @KayFaraday @applejack it's a long proof, provide me with your address and i'll drop by and explain over a cup of tea sometime

@jeffcliff @applejack @KayFaraday @Atma311

I doubt it. but prove me with your photo and address for reference

and try a short explanation now

you have B.SC or something, so you should be smart enough

@Emperor1 @Atma311 @KayFaraday @applejack maybe
@Crankenstein or someone might care to explain it though.

@applejack @Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311 It is literally the worst thing you can do to a society or community. Hurting the offspring will ruin a generation.

@Crankenstein @applejack @KayFaraday @Atma311

"Hurting the offspring will ruin a generation."

so, how is it hurting offspring?

who told you this?

@Emperor1 @Atma311 @KayFaraday @applejack Imagine trying to put a regular sized cucumber into a soda bottle. That is the physical aspect of the harm.

@Crankenstein @applejack @KayFaraday @Atma311

1. do pedos want to harm in that way?
2. is that the only thing that can happen?
3. what do kids want?

@Emperor1 @Atma311 @KayFaraday @applejack Pedos are mentally deranged people who think a humanoid without secondary sexual characteristics are attractive ergo, they want to have sex with a body that is not ready to do such things. No, it isn't the only thing that can happen. Kids do not want to partake in any sexual conduct unless coached to do so by pedophiles.

@Crankenstein @applejack @KayFaraday @Atma311

"Kids do not want to partake in any sexual conduct unless coached to do so by pedophiles."

this was entirely disproved by Sigmund Freud, Wilhelm Reich, Karl Menninger, and Thomas Rind, and others.

kids are sexual beings and many want to have sexual contact with adults, although it is not the same as adults would have

"Pedos are mentally deranged people...."

how do you know this?

@Crankenstein @Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311

>without secondary sexual characteristics
A secondary implies there's a primary

>Kids do not want to partake in any sexual conduct unless coached to do so by pedophiles.
Consistent with our findings, masturbation has been reported to start in most children before 2 years of age .
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/47718104_Infantile_and_early_childhood_masturbation_Sex_hormones_and_clinical_profile

@applejack @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311

prenatal erections?

@Crankenstein @applejack @KayFaraday @Atma311

something does not make sense here

if you are with the person you have sex with, do you do something that hurts them and that they don't want?

@Emperor1 @Atma311 @KayFaraday @applejack Oh. I get it now. You're a pedo. I thought you were just playing devils advocate. Well then.

@Crankenstein @applejack @KayFaraday @Atma311

no, you still don't get it

here is where the shift always comes you people like you

anybody who contradicts your argument, you call them a pedo and then start attacking them personally

you are not ready for prime time

@Crankenstein @applejack @Atma311 @Emperor1 @KayFaraday pedo’s are a biological weapon used against us much in the way freed slaves turned into violent parasites killing western culture. These 2 plagues have been cultivated by the same enemy.

@VanillaGorilla @Atma311 @Emperor1 @KayFaraday @applejack There's at least 3 pedos in this thread. They're deranged and you wont convince them of anything. I suggest blocking the ones you can tell to be pedos from their replies and not fall for the ragebait. They get off on that sort of thing

@Crankenstein how did you find your way into this gross thread ?

@VanillaGorilla @Crankenstein he posted an anti-pedo post like 2 seconds after the above post I responded to. I put the two together since they clearly disagree.

@VanillaGorilla @applejack @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311

you guys have such a brilliant communication strategy

as soon as one of you gets blocked, another pops up and repeats the same stupid

like a 70's horror movie

"pedo’s are a biological weapon used against us"

no, they are not a weapon, which implies they have been crafted

adult and kids have loved each other since there were humans

try asking kids what they think

@Emperor1 @Atma311 @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @applejack the enablers deserve the same gruesome fate as a pedo’s victim.
Deus Vult motherfucker…

@VanillaGorilla @applejack @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311

there are no enablers

there is no plan
there is no conspiracy
and you still have not bothered to actually talk to any kids about what they want. you just repeat the same stuff over and over

and you wonder why they stole the election right from under your feet

MARS ULTOR

@VanillaGorilla @Emperor1 @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311 Larp more

@Emperor1 @VanillaGorilla @Atma311 @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @applejack

> try asking kids what they think

I remember being a kid, and having friends who were raped really young. I remember consoling them.

@jeffcliff @Emperor1 @VanillaGorilla @applejack @Atma311 I'm sorry to hear that. Nobody here is arguing that that isn't abhorrent though.

@KayFaraday @jeffcliff @VanillaGorilla @applejack @Atma311

you mean kids forced to have sex against their will?

of course that is abhorrent, just as it is with an adult

@Emperor1 @VanillaGorilla @applejack @Atma311 @jeffcliff i explicitly didn't specify as i wasn't sure of the contact stances of others in this thread

@KayFaraday @VanillaGorilla @applejack @Atma311 @jeffcliff

does not matter

there is no reasoning with nutcases

they just repeat the same fixed opinions, based on illusions

can't do original research

can't think through a logical sequence

@KayFaraday @Emperor1 @VanillaGorilla @Atma311 @jeffcliff Saying rape when you mean sex makes about as much sense here as one of those fembloats saying they were raped by being looked at. If you think it's bad anyway, okay, but you should probably treat "rape" like rape and "sex" like sex.

@applejack @KayFaraday @VanillaGorilla @Atma311 @jeffcliff

this is part of the government's nomenclature game

changing the definitions of things to demonize beneficial actions

@applejack @KayFaraday @VanillaGorilla @Atma311 @jeffcliff

that's why "official" studies make sure to call consensual child-adult love sexual abuse

to kiss government's ass and get grant funding

@jeffcliff @Emperor1 @VanillaGorilla @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311
So do anecdotes in the other direction count too or is it an exception in your favour?
https://www.ipce.info/host/rivas/girls_men.htm

Then actually looking at overall non-coercive sex
A meta-analytic examination of assumed properties of child sexual abuse using college samples
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9670820/
However, this poorer adjustment could not be attributed to CSA because family environment (FE) was consistently confounded with CSA, FE explained considerably more adjustment variance than CSA, and CSA-adjustment relations generally became nonsignificant when studies controlled for FE. Self-reported reactions to and effects from CSA indicated that negative effects were neither pervasive nor typically intense, and that men reacted much less negatively than women. The college data were completely consistent with data from national samples. Basic beliefs about CSA in the general population were not supported.

And then obviously, it shows because:
Sauzier, M. (1989). "Disclosure of child sexual abuse: For better or for worse," Psychiatric Clinics of North America, 12, 455-69.
"Fifty-five per cent of the 156 children seen purposefully disclosed their sexual abuse, most frequently to their mothers. Children who never told, but were seen after accidental disclosures, showed less distress, whether hiding minor or major forms of sexual abuse. This finding support the clinical impression that disclosure adds extra stress on children and cannot be expected of every victim. [...] Approximately 18 months after the end of the crisis intervention offered at intake, 115 of the 156 cases were re-evaluated. Overall, most children showed improvements on standardized tests, but 24 per cent got worse. [...] A final word of caution comes from the 19 per cent of adolescents who regretted their disclosures."

APA press release: Online Sex Abuse Cases Not Characterized By Deception, Abduction And Force, Research Shows
"The authors also recommend training for law enforcement since some of the targeted youth may not initially see themselves as victims and may require sensitive interviewing in order to cooperate with investigators."

If you're gaslit into being upset, it makes sense you would be

@applejack @Emperor1 @VanillaGorilla @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311 I will grant meta-analyses are a little stronger than anecdotal data and require at least a skim

@applejack @jeffcliff @VanillaGorilla @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311

"sensitive interviewing in order to cooperate with investigators"

translation: lying to kids who love their adult partners

(it's legal for LEO to lie to citizens)

like telling them they understand the kids loves his partner and that no charges will be pressed against the adult

to get the kid to betray the adult

then LEO turns right around and charges the adult who never hurt a flea

antidote to this: a lawyer for the defendant should always be present at such interviews

@VanillaGorilla @Emperor1 @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311
Pedophilia was normal universally before jewry. It's only after jewry that it became abnormal. Explain your schizo causality there for me
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J056v16n02_03

@applejack @VanillaGorilla @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311

this refers only to western society or industrialized countries aping the western model

gilbert herdt a professor at san francisco state university

did a study of the "samba" culture (pseudonym used on social sciences to protest cultures from interference)

he found that sex between men and boys of 8 was normal and institutionalized

in fact even this is not a human limit, as anyone who does first hand research can find out

but when government criminalize research, no one can find out

@applejack @Atma311 @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @VanillaGorilla

protest should be protect

@applejack @Emperor1 @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311 how to deal with retards who enable monsters who prey on children…
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