"nooo you cant say the holocaust was fake!!!! thats horrible, there are thousands of images proving that nazis were murdering jews and gays!!!!"
"lmao the holodomer was faked and all the images aren't real"

"nooo you cany say the holodomer was fake!!!! thats horrible, there are thousands of images proving that the ukrainians were being overworked and starved!!!"
"lmao the holocaust was faked and all the images aren't real"

@Mysha
>there are thousands of images proving that the ukrainians were being overworked and starved
Post, that's all I'm asking

@Spag @Mysha Does anyone at all deny the fact he: increased their quotas during a draught, punished anyone for having grain for themselves, shot people that tried to leave, had massive grain reserves so had no reason for the quotas and could easily have let them all live?

I don't think the pictures are really the important evidence here. Pictures in general are just shitty evidence. We have pictures of Bigfoot

The "debate" around it is whether this counts as deliberate killing (it does)

@applejack @Mysha
>increased their quotas during a draught
>punished anyone for having grain for themselves
>shot people that tried to leave
>had massive grain reserves so had no reason for the quotas and could easily have let them all live

Hearsay without sources until you provide them, or are you just trusting mainstream media on this?

@Spag @applejack Spag lemme just say all these arguments are literally the same arguments that i hear from otso, char, and apple against the holocaust, if you can argue that the holocaust happened then you surely can argue that the holodomer also happened and vice versa

@Mysha @applejack That is true, and I hear the same, so I went looking for sources on the holocaust and found even the fucking blueprint of the camps, in the original german.

Show me sources. I have looked up the ones you provided and they are all "US said X", the same US that publishes "north koreans have to push trains"

@Spag @Mysha The camps existed, that's not the fake claim, it's that they were death camps