Anti-libertarian people in a nutshell:
"Look at these dumb lolberts. They're a bunch of anti-government hyper-capitalists degenerates. Their system will never work."
"Yeah. I totally vote. There is nothing rigged about the current system at all. There is no shadow government. That's some crazy conspiracy theory nonsense."
@xianc78 The main things that drove me away from libertarianism was it's focus on money and deontology
Libertarianism and socialism are both extremely money focused. They put their prime goal as money and only disagree in how to achieve and spread it. Almost every point a socialist/libertarian makes is about how it prevents the spread of wealth
When it's not about money, it's a deontological "because I say so", with this extremely arbitrary definition of freedom that accepts acts like driving your kids into the woods to let them die (Rothbard), debt slavery, and media manipulation as free
A more minor thing is also how they can't ever admit a fault capitalism. Certain industries have extremely large networking effects that you just can't overcome with a free market. Power tends to centralise because having it means you have the will and power to gain more power
