Modern operation systems should come with pre-installed set of all tools needed for everyday use.

This includes a free video editor, archiver, photo editor as well as an office suite. And both Windows and Android are failing spectacularly in these tasks, forcing users to explore often shady marketplaces to find a 3rd grade software. This is a failure with society-wide consequences, and both Microsoft and Alphabet should be fined for forcing uneducated users to risk their valuable hardware.

@LukeAlmighty And then when they don't install an image compressor because no normie needs that, what are you going to do? When you hate all the software installed, what are you going to do? And when people become used to these retarded monoliths and choices start to fade from everyone, what will you do?

You' want Musks' "everything app", not a layer between processes and eachother and the hardware, an OS

@applejack
Did I say it needs to be an everything app, and that it should not be possible to install a better software?

I just said, that the stupid app store is a complete trash, where I cannot find a proper software. So, how is a normie supposed to work with it?

@LukeAlmighty You did say it should have everything, you did not say it should be impossible to install new software, it's just a consequence of what you're asking for

There are over 3 million apps on the store. If you could not find an app to compress images or whatever you were trying to do, chances are good you suck at searching

@applejack
I kinda cannot believe, that you're arguing, that MS edge is killing firefox/chrome and that Paint is killing photoshop/gimp.

@LukeAlmighty @applejack microsoft has been hit with anti trust laws for daring to provide a media player and web browser out of the box. consumers just install chrome anyway and do everything using javascript web apps so it doesn't matter what they include or not.
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@mactonite @LukeAlmighty And before those IE gained 95% market share and killed Netscape which had 90% peak market share

You're sharing both parts of the story as if they have no relation to each other

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@applejack @LukeAlmighty well consumers value convenience so if windows comes with ie and chromebooks/smartphones come with chrome then that's likely what they'll stick with. that's not unfair on microsoft's part.
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