@Nirty_Digger the crazy thing is that literally everywhere i live is hiring for much higher wages than they used to, places are cutting their hours drastically, and you can't even order a damn pizza for delivery at 7pm because there are no drivers. there are pizza places deadass hiring drivers for $20/hr.
@fluffy @Nirty_Digger the ridiculous thing is that it's $20/hr (plus tips) for a ***pizza delivery driver***. that's all you do, you just drive the pizza and occasionally answer the phone. if i could drive i'd take up that shit in a heartbeat. that was like a minimum wage job for a long time but nobody wants to do it anymore so they have to keep increasing the wages.
$20/hr + tips is still pretty good, especially for the typical person that would be doing the job which is either someone who is pretty young or desperate for a job. maybe not in california or new york but at least where i live it's totally acceptable. if you were working full time you could totally sustain yourself as an individual and maybe even a kid if you really had to. you could rent a one bedroom apartment with your wife and kid and trade off work shifts, very easy. and a pizza delivery guy is not a hard job at all.
if it's a pretty good offer why is nobody quitting their job to take it
> which is either someone who is pretty young or desperate for a job.
pay that you need to be desperate to accept is not pretty good pay
the type of job it is doesn't make the pay better or worse.
>if you were working full time you could totally sustain yourself as an individual and maybe even a kid if you really had to. you could rent a one bedroom apartment with your wife and kid and trade off work shifts, very easy.
"you can rent (but not own) a large closet to share with your wife and child"
how compelling.
tell me, with this pay after taxes, if you saved everything, how long would it take to save up enough to buy a small house?
twenty years. the answer is twenty years. median home cost is 428k. a median salary after taxes can buy that if you save for twenty years.
this is why nobody is taking the job. it isn't paying shit. you'd have to at least double it.
BealtaineGoat I could build a small home for a few percent of that price, the trouble is that it wouldn't conform to all the green regs and the government would tear it down, then bill me for the cost of destroying me home.
Eyeballing, median wage should be around 160k/yr at ten percent income taxes for the citizens to afford housing.
I think they are just permanently outpriced
https://yhoo.it/3OH3MLf
This is the current situation for median salary men. You tell me if a pod is a step down
@fluffy @Telvannichad @Eiregoat @Nirty_Digger I was under the impression that it's been like that for a while. Nobody in my family has ever actually paid off a mortgage. Houses have been bought and then sold before being totally paid off. That includes my grandparents as well. My great grandma owned her house, but that house was from like 1930 and was built by her parents; she inherited it. Unless you really knew what you were doing and made a great amount of money with low expenses, a house could take anywhere from 15-30 years to totally pay off. I don't think that's a relatively new concept. Most people don't ever actually pay off their mortgage from what I understand, shit just gets refinanced or reversed or transferred to someone else. Hell, I bet most people never actually fully pay off their car before either selling it or totaling it... Let alone a house.
If you were to buy an older house around here, your loan would actually be cheaper than renting somewhere with equivalent statistics. Of course, there are downsides and upsides to doing that.
