@dave @beardalaxy That was also my initial thought, but I don't know if the FBI is involved in that at all.
Seeing as how you're not a conspiracy theorist, Dave, I'm assuming that you believe the story the those documents were simply some that were forgotten there by Biden, and that this isn't in any way a setup?

@Jens_Rasmussen @beardalaxy “Setup to make sure the guy doesn’t run again in 2024” doesn’t really jive, I think the guy just had ready access to classified for so much of his career, and so little accountability, that he got lazy.

This would not be the first time a high-level politician with access to classified was caught violating security protocols, and frankly, when it happens, they usually just try to sweep it under the rug if they’re powerful enough, unless it was intentionally being shared or something.

@dave @beardalaxy >“Setup to make sure the guy doesn’t run again in 2024” doesn’t really jive
How so?

@Jens_Rasmussen @beardalaxy Among other things, MSM is running cover for him. If your worldview is that media insiders, party insiders, and government insiders collude to construct a narrative, wouldn’t the talking heads be feigning outrage instead of trying to tell people it’s not a big deal?

@dave @beardalaxy Good point, but I thought you didn't believe that.

@Jens_Rasmussen @beardalaxy But the question was why I don’t think it’s a setup. If it’s a setup, it implies that intel agencies are doing gayops against their own chief executive, something that they would definitely go to prison for if they were caught. And if they’re comfortable doing that, then they probably do have those kinds of connections/coordination with insiders in other industries.

@dave @beardalaxy >something that they would definitely go to prison for if they were caught
>"FBI investigates the FBI and concludes that they did nothing wrong"
The risk is minimal for the intel agencies themselves to be doing something like this.

>if they’re comfortable doing that, then they probably do have those kinds of connections/coordination with insiders in other industries
See that's why I think you have a good argument. But oppositely, if the intelligence services, or possibly the White House in general, wanted this to be something the public didn't know about, then I doubt we would have heard anything at all in the first place.

@Jens_Rasmussen @beardalaxy

The risk is minimal for the intel agencies themselves to be doing something like this.

Disagree, you just need one guy on the team that pretends to go along with it but secretly informs another agency (maybe the secret service?), and then you’re all going to jail for trying to frame the president.

@dave @beardalaxy Unless one guy comes under pressure, such as an interrogation by such an "other agency", then I doubt that anyone deeply enough involved in such an alleged framing to leak critical info, would actually do so.

@Jens_Rasmussen @beardalaxy I suspect it’s really just that high-level politicians do sometimes get careless with handling classified.

@dave @beardalaxy I can believe that it would make the news if it happened to a former president or official, but a sitting one would have news of something like that quelled before anything could come of it, assuming the White House and intelligence services support them.

@dave @beardalaxy @Jens_Rasmussen the fbi should be gutted because it does not deserve to exist

@Nudhul @beardalaxy @Jens_Rasmussen It does seem like it has a lot of corruption problems and civil rights violation issues.

@dave @Nudhul @beardalaxy That's to be expected of a secret police, isn't it?

Reminds me of a case here in Denmark:
Some middle eastern immigrant is in prison for having assisted Islamic State in Syria back when that was relevant. He then reveals that he's an asset of FE (military intelligence service) and that he was just following orders from the Danish authorities. Considering the fact that FE has denied commenting rather than denying, it's all but confirmed that he's speaking the truth which leaves me with mixed feelings.
On one hand, he's a non-white who shouldn't be here and I'd be happy to see him dead if possible, but on the other hand I'd expect some dignity and honestly from public institutions (unlikely these days, I know. Even in public-facing institutions), but on the other hand it's a spy service we're talking about; backstabbing, lying and being underhanded is what they do.

@dave @Jens_Rasmussen could be that too but I thought that happened a couple weeks ago, shooting happened on the 22nd so that's what I went with.