Imagine being a new Nintendo fan due to the Switch, getting Mario Odyssey and loving it, and then buying the overpriced, low-effort Mario 3D All Stars collection because all the internet people and e-celebs insisted that Sunshine and especially Mario 64 are even better than Odyssey - holy shit, I'd be so fucking pissed about Lied to like that once I actually played those 2 games!

@ChristiJunior
Retards complaining about Moons in Odyssey while saying 64 and Sunshine are better games was so dumb.

@ArdainianRight Odyssey is objectively a better sandbox game than 64 and Sunshine just for not outright KICKING YOU OUT OF THE WORLD every time you nab a notable collectible.

@ChristiJunior @ArdainianRight i do wish that mario 64 and sunshine would keep you in the world when you got a star. thankfully there are cheats that let you do that. unfortunately though the worlds still change when certain star requirements are met so you have to reset it every once in a while. stuff like the eel coming out in jolly roger bay, the tower being built in whomp's fortress, etc.

personally, i still haven't played odyssey and probably never will because it's TOO MUCH. i like my mario 64 because it's very self contained and it's a short game i can play through every now and then when i feel like it. even starting odyssey just feels daunting and i know i'd likely never go back to it again.

sunshine and 64 aren't sandbox games though anyway, nor do i want them to be. i like them just fine as having little contained worlds to go and play and then go back to the hub world.

@beardalaxy @ChristiJunior @ArdainianRight I can see this. I think you put in words what I was feeling about 64 and Sunshine earlier in the year: how their smaller tighter focus in episodes helps with replayability years apart, it makes it feel more “carefully crafted”. Bite sized events instead of a lengthy…well, an odyssey! Heh, Odyssey is kind of meta in that regard, it wants to be big, so much so that it doesn’t even have additional save files! So it does give a different flavor.