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@Kyonko802 i get that microsoft starting to delve further into telemetry and shit is bad, but this is still misleading.
1. it is only available for new copilot+ laptops
2. it is all local (requires 25gb min)
3. you can just turn it off (including specific websites, and it doesn't work during private browsing)
i'd think of it less like telemetry and more like more granular restore points that an AI can delve through to provide reminders and such.
even if there wasn't an option to turn it off built in, you can rest assured there would be some way to do it with registry edits or what have you. windows 10 and 11 already have telemetry as-is that *isn't* local, and you can turn that off very easily with a powershell script.
@Kyonko802 @beardalaxy On the other hand is microshaft, so the implementation is turbo shit.
@EdBoatConnoisseur @Kyonko802 they did this exact same thing without AI on windows 10 (timeline). they ended up discontinuing it, probably because they saw the opportunity to use AI for it instead. i don't know anybody that actually used it.
my assumption is that it'll be another one of those toggles during initial setup if your computer supports it. if people want their pc to track everything they do then they'll leave it on... i'm assuming it'll be most useful for people just doing schoolwork or business. which is the vast majority of people using laptops in the first place and probably why MS targeted it there. any self respecting gamer wouldn't be using a snapdragon laptop.
Even assuming it works as intended, it's going to require such grotesque ram and cpu that they couldn't force it one everyone even if they wanted to
@Homosoypiens @Kyonko802 that's also probably why it's been developed for specific hardware.
@beardalaxy @Homosoypiens @Kyonko802 The long term problem here is that "adding 'AI'" to CPU chips is becoming a thing, if not a "required" thing due to AI hype/promise.
Searching on the upcoming Lunar Lake chips, Intel and perhaps others even have a new buzzphrase for it, "AI PC":
"What the AI PC is: An AI PC has a central processing unit (CPU), a graphic processing unit (GPU) and a neural processing unit (NPU), each with specific AI acceleration capabilities. An NPU is a specialized accelerator that efficiently handles AI and machine learning (ML) tasks right on your PC instead of sending data to be processed in the cloud. The AI PC is increasingly important as the need to automate, streamline and optimize tasks on the PC grows.
"Why It Matters: Lunar Lake is expected to be a groundbreaking mobile processor for AI PCs with more than 3 times the AI performance compared with the previous generation. With more than 40 NPU tera operations per second (TOPS), Intel’s next generation processors will provide the capabilities necessary for Copilot+ experiences coming to market...."
Copilot is the current major brand for Microsoft's chatbot, see also GitHub Copilot. Per the "AI" that comes with Brave Search, the Snapdragon X Elite chips which will be the first to support this new "Recall" Windows 11 feature has a 45 TOPS NPU.
@ThatWouldBeTelling @Homosoypiens @Kyonko802 Nvidia gpus already have dedicated AI cores and to great effect. It's good to be tentative about it though since there are ways it can go wrong, if over reliant. I hope it accelerates computing rather than holding it back or violating privacy.
@beardalaxy @Homosoypiens @Kyonko802 OK, some more from Microsoft on all this:
"Unlock a new era of innovation with Windows Copilot Runtime and Copilot+ PCs"
"Copilot+ PCs are the fastest, most intelligent Windows PCs ever with AI infused at every layer...."
The article is mostly "Developers, developers, developers!" except with specific things they're offering including a "Snapdragon Dev Kit for Windows" which is pretty serious with 32 GiB DRAM, etc. and "support for up to 3 concurrent external displays and uses 20% ocean-bound-plastic."
Meanwhile a icepat on Hacker News observes what this means is:
"Most likely more effective data harvesting. Individual user level AI isn't the end goal I don't think. It's just a nice byproduct. This just means they can embed more data collection, and use your device to crunch the numbers for them."
@ThatWouldBeTelling @Homosoypiens @Kyonko802 i am in agreeance that anybody using this will have more of their data processed/harvested, but the fact of the matter is that just like everything else on windows that grabs your data, you don't have to use it and they provide an actual toggle for it instead of needing to delve into the registry or use scripts to accomplish that.
