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is it just me or are lolicons becoming way more retarded lately? i blame the gooners. i remember back even 10 years ago lolicons were way more chill and nobody really cared.

@beardalaxy Personally I haven't seen much retardation in the loli community. But that can be because I only use fedi :renge_shrug: But yeah, gooners ruin everything :tanya_sigh:

Also, everything was more chill 10 years ago. The Internet now is flooded with puritans, leftists, kids, retards... :mito_weary: Everything you will do will be bad
@beardalaxy To be fair to them I think it's a bit of an immune response of sorts to the influx of tourists trying to shit up the place in the anime community the last couple of years

@NorthernBaron honestly i just think people are super degenerate and that's saying something coming from me. it's one thing to btfo some tourists but it's another thing to give in to the brain rot.

@Ashurbanipal @NorthernBaron I wouldn't actually consider myself a degen because I actually contribute to society and have a generally positive aura, but I'm still into some relatively weird shit. Shit that, when I look at some of the other people who are into it, makes me feel anything from disgust to anger.

It's just... When the furry lolicon is telling you that you might be taking something a bit too far you might want to rethink some things about your life and actions. It's like the dude who married Hatsune Miku needing to remind people that she's not real.

I will add that it could very well be bad actors (from tourists to glowies), but I don't think enough is done to remove those bad actors and they actually start to infect more "genuine" people. So a group/community will start to get twisted that way.

@beardalaxy @NorthernBaron
trust me you are not in the slightest a degenerate
apart from furry stuff you are quite "vanilla" as this stuff goes
i think you are just becoming aware of certain cliques that have more or less always existed
they have just been less numerous
@beardalaxy @Ashurbanipal @NorthernBaron the furry sphere is literally what happens when there's no gatekeeping and bad actors everywhere, and I don't just mean lolisho/cub sphere ones I'm talking so many others.

From "stop gooning to x" to political activists, it's really bad.
@beardalaxy @Ashurbanipal @NorthernBaron I don't know you, so I'm not calling you a degenerate. But contributing to society (can mean many things) and having a positive aura (also very abstract) does not exclude one being a degenerate.

In a way, when compared to our not so distant ancestors, we are all degenerates due to the environments of our time. Perhaps the most distinct sign whether one is or isn't a degenerate is between him who embraces destructive and life-negating behavior, and him who fights against this inclination.

In this understanding, the childless gooner who glorifies porn (2d or not) would be a degenerate, while a similar guy who works towards a family, would be not. I want to mention that the opposite of life-negating is not limited to starting a family, but this is a concrete example of affirming life by creating life.
@beardalaxy It's not just them but Twitter-adjacent weebs in general have become as loud and obnoxious as faggots. It's understandably due to "people" that hate them keep trying to engage in (read: ruin) their interests but it's tiring seeing them rage at the same things over and over every single day and do nothing about it to the point it's their entire personality now.

The cringey Nagatoro anime Crunchyroll subs may have brought light to bad localization but they've also turned half the weeaboo population into NPCs re-using the same dialogue endlessly.
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Did you have examples? I have noticed more lolicons being open about it, but I also figured that was related to who I interact with on fedi and getting into BA

I don't need specific examples but something a little more specific than "more retarded". As I get older, a lot of things I'm in to feel more retarded pretty regularly. Mostly from getting flooded with new people who don't understand keeping shit to yourself.

@Beefki kind of hard to explain. gooners just being gooners mostly. and getting more depraved about it. letting fantasy slip further into reality and being proud about it. and a general vibe that more people are okay with that sort of thing even if they don't participate themselves.

but you're right, pretty much everything is getting more retarded lately. i was just complaining about star fox fans the other day. it's like everything i'm into eventually gets overrun with fags and nonces.

maybe this stuff has always been around and i've just been involved in them long enough to start seeing it. but it certainly feels worse than it used to be. i think as the internet grows, more people start hopping in these communities and people in them are so excited for new folks to come in that they don't really care how they act. it all just sort of festers until it implodes in on itself. no gatekeeping.

@beardalaxy
Ah, so actual pedophiles hiding in the lolicon crowd and stuff like that? I've certainly seen some people who are doing that but can't say it's been common, though other than BA I don't really interact with lolicon fans.

And yeah, a lot of niche fandoms don't gatekeep like they should and are too afraid to remove the tumor before it grows too big.

Autism begets greater autism, and we all know people won't improve themself unless forced to.

@beardalaxy it is just gooners and fantasists being a universally bad influence on whatever social group they encounter.
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