@jeffcliff @j @Thanh_Le idk man, I've got epilepsy and I saw people having really bad seizures after taking the vaccine. Decided I would risk a disease that mostly kills old and fat people instead of a vaccine that would potentially do a lot more damage to me. Also the whole "trust the science" thing really loses its luster when you know how often "established science" is either just flat out wrong or has been directly manipulated by bad actors. Scientific theories (emphasis on theories) are good to take into account, especially if they have been well tested and developed over a long period of time. Still, trusting it wholesale is how you get stuff like 15 years of alzheimers research being based on fabrications or several elements being "discovered" by the guy who wrote the software to discover them.