when bao is talking about choosing the bear over the man in the woods i think she's using it as a joke but y'all are way too caught up in just reacting super viscerally to it to take it that way. i'm absolutely certain that there is a problem with male content creators being cretins too, i mean you only have to look to people like mizkif, hasan, vaush, destiny, etc. to understand that. what about the dude who ran that one vtuber agency that was trying to get in all the girls' pants? that's what bao was talking about. i think shondo was calling the dude who made the callout tweet against bao a groomer because in her mind, she sees the guy as siding with and defending people like that because that's the context of what is being said. this whole thing seems like a massive miscommunication in an online society that is getting more and more abrasive of anything that even remotely addresses women's concerns due to how much toxic feminism shit has been piled on us for the last decade.