@carlosruzu
>KF2
Killing Floor?

>Discord
gae

>webcomic
YESTERDAY, YOU SAID TOMORROW, SO JUST
DOOOOOO
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

@Zerglingman i really should get to work on that comic. too busy making pedo copers mald
also yes killing floor, i also can reinstall my modded rim modlist, play l4d2 and risk of rain 2
>gae
3 issues with getting rid of discord; irl friends don't want to get rid of it; i have a 100 member server; hot chinese cosplayer that i met at my first anime con talks to me on discord

@carlosruzu Still gae, and double gae for having it in your account links instead of xmpp.

I might be down for kf2. Have to check if it runs properly (did they ever add penguin?) though. What times do you usually play?

>pedo copers
As in lolicons?

@Zerglingman nope, actual people that say that "the age of consent should be abolished". Also I'm down whenever atm since I'm jobless lol. Try to aim for 7 PM - 2 AM CST though. Also how do you use xmpp?

@carlosruzu oh kek. I'm actually somewhat of that opinion, because it's really serving as a maturity test, and it's pretty bad at that.
But everything else is worse, especially none ツ
Maybe we should just go back to coming-of-age trials like in the stories.

What kind of "how do you use"? As in "what programs are needed"?

@Zerglingman yeah what programs do i need for xmpp and where do i learn to use them

@carlosruzu Desktop: Pidgin, uhhh I forgot all the other ones because I just use pidgin for (almost) everything
Android: conversations (or convers6tions if you care about ip6), also others
There are shitloads of them, just look up "xmpp client <platform>" and you should get flooded with results.
There are probably websites that do it but they may not work with all servers (there's a setting about http access, which I think websites would usually use, but not always).

As for how to use... Hopefully they're relatively straightforward. idk good learning places for xmpp. I lurk the newsletter these days: https://xmpp.org/blog/
Also it has lots of Russian crypto scam bots, have fun getting friend reqs from them (I think you can just auto reject friend reqs, or at least by domain - there are only about 5 domains that do it).
@carlosruzu For the record, if you want a Discord-like experience, you'd be better off with revolt (not federated) or matrix (but, well, you've probably already got opinions on matrix). I like XMPP more than matrix, and I don't really care about anything not federated.
@kazcynski_stan @carlosruzu Prove it or gtfo, troll.
element doesn't count, morg doesn't count, because both are easily avoided.
Even synapse barely counts.
@Zerglingman @carlosruzu I wish I could do a chad "I made it up" but I heard it from Luke Smith in his article about XMPP vs Matrix.
@kazcynski_stan @carlosruzu Link it? "Luke Smith" seems a bit hard to look up.
Actually if I just chuck all those words in I should - ah yep there it is.

"The standard Matrix-Synapse server now encrypts all chats and private rooms with end-to-end encryption by default."
...
Ooooook I'm just gonna close that right there and tell you to try again, cite someone that isn't a fucking retard, or actually prove it.
@Zerglingman @carlosruzu You seem like you're in a bad mood, Zerg. I feel like you've been rather hostile today (well yesterday technically). Not pulling a "u mad bro", I'm genuinely curious, as a fren. You ok, man?

Anyways, the issue is they still have access to metadata.

"Matrix was developed and funded by a company Amdocs. Amdocs is an Israeli company that has since moved to America and has near total knowledge of American telephone communications.
You can read about the fun history of Amdocs here. More about Matrix and Amdocs here.
Since American telephone records have "mysteriously" fallen into the hands of Israel, there are many questions as how this has happened. Perhaps this Israeli company which has had many Israeli military and intelligence officers involved with it and which also has all American telephone records might be involved?
Actually, this is just like Matrix. Amdocs does not have access to telephone audio (so far as I know), they only traffic in metadata (when calls are made and between whom). Matrix functions the same way. Chats are at least end-to-end encrypted (which still puts this Israeli honeypot lightyears ahead of proprietary spyware like Telegram), but Matrix metadata is easily available to server administrators.
Now to be clear, formally, since 2017, Amdocs no longer is the open sponsor of Matrix. It is instead funded by a break-off organization called Vector. But Matrix/Vector has somehow remained very, very well-funded for a "community-driven" project: they raised $8.5 million, that's a lot for free stuff! Crowd-funding for relatively unknown open source software projects is apparently much more lucrative than I thought!
(Of course, we all know that this is a baseless and widely deboonkted anti-semitic conspiracy theory as Our Greatest Ally®️ Israel would never do anything bad to us at all.)"
@carlosruzu Feel free to hit me up, here or there (ah, it's not in my profile, maybe I should add some more links - @zergling.man:perthchat.org), with questions. Matrix has some odd concepts that are just waiting to "gotcha!"
Remember, no element.
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