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I've said it before, i am NOT against people using AI to generate images for personal and private use, or to use as reference in creating other type of media. But using them to pretend to be something you are not and try to profit from it is unethical, scummy and cringe.

You like AI generated images? Ok, keep them on your general social media profile only if you can and explicity mark them as images generated using AI. Keep them out of websites made to artists to share their hard done work, they don't deserve to be stolen attention by wannabes.

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@hideki @hideki Honestly i hate AI image generation entirely the more i learn about it. Yeah its definitely interesting and its useful no doubt. Of course i see it very interesting. But its one of those things that it would be best if it never existed in the first place and everyone knows it deep down with that off putting feeling. Not just in art but things on the internet in general.

AI Image generation would do way more harm then good, no doubt.

:tinfoil: Also if i may put my tinfoil hat on, more harm then anyone could fathom.

@siinclaiir Well, in the history of humanity there are a lot of thnigs that should have never existed to be honest. guns? bombs? hell, maybe we would be better off without computers at all.

My point of view it's that there's nothing to gain by being bitter about something that we know it's not gonna go away in the short time.

Being bitter and resentful about it is an option but you may end up arguing too much with people and you will end up hating everyone because of that. You can also choose to just avoid and ignore the theme entirely and it would be respectable, but then you wouldn't be able to predict and foresee the way this technology may affect your craft.

I am 1000% behind artists on this, because you know that i have a certain degree of artistic and creative aspirations, but i am also a fan of technology in general, and to me, generating images using AI tools is something no short of a technological miracle.

My stance on this until now it's that we should advocate for a fair and ethical use of these tools, and see that they can end up becoming a valuable resource for artists if they decide to use correctly,

And like i said, it's the artists and users which are gonna end up steering this technology onto a good place if people decide to be smart and not thinking with their gut but with their head.

Personally and speaking about my work, i have been incorporating AI recently on it in the form of asking these tools for references about shapes, composition, colors, etc, but only as a reference and not to steer my artworks in the direction the AI suggest me to. Also to make myself clear about my stuff being handmade i started posting my wireframes along my work to assure the viewer that everything has been done by me and not by someone else.

@hideki @siinclaiir

>Guns should never have existed
The advent of firearms was the core material cause of the liberation of men from Kings.

@hideki @book @siinclaiir No. We can be nice within some contexts. Evolution was a competition, the only time it wasn't was with kin. If you're nice to outgroups they'll replace you

@book @siinclaiir @hideki >liberation of men from Kings
What we have now is worse and they have armies with nukes instead of swords

@siinclaiir i think that if artists stand together enough to overpower the "Ai iz arts" crowd, it will make an enough of a diference to make people see what's the deal with this.

There are a lot of things that the Ai bros can't do like post WIPs, structural concepts, timelapses, alternate versions, etc, because they just don't have the tools to do it.

@hideki @hideki :hit_with_feels: Yeah, pretty much the best thing to do for me is taking a photo of my finish piece and the progress. pretty interesting what you need to do as a 3d artist.

:tanya_sigh: Good thing im analog artist and not digital. Must be really hard for digital artist, i mean i do color digitally bur the line art and shading is done on paper and ink / pencil
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