@matrix twitter needs the alt right to exist to justify banning people they don't like

@jeff
The left needs the alt-right to exist to justify their totalitarian ideas.
The both extremes live in symbiosis.

@matrix @jeff That must be why Left spent several months deplatforming The Daily Stormer, or why Twitter banned tons of alt-right people (just go to Gab, you'll find many of them there).

What you're saying is just a dumb, factually challenged talking point pushed by Sargon.

@ChristiJunior
They need the boogie man to hide their suppression of the more sensible opposition. They don't need the actual alt-right.
A ton of the people banned from Twitter had nothing to do with the alt-right.
@jeff

@matrix @ChristiJunior @jeff

Antifa had to turn Spencer into Second Hitler Imminent to justify their reaction, but itâs not symbiotic. The alt-right uses a different subversive bogeyman.

@daughter @ChristiJunior @matrix they are two sides of the same coin

@jeff @daughter @matrix Expect one faction completely controls academia, the media, pop culture and much of the deep state, while the other posts memes.

False Equivalence is retarded.

@ChristiJunior
I'm taking about the ideological side. Not power. Both the alt-right and alt-left behave exactly the same way in a position of power.
I'm fully aware of the power the left has. It's the reasons why I mostly talk about the left. The fart huffing individuals that say a comment with two likes is the same as journalist lying piss me off too.
@daughter @jeff

@matrix @daughter @jeff My impression is that plenty in the wider "alt-right" actually support free speech, despite personally being racist and sexist (aka, having normal pre-1960s values).

The unironic Nazis certainly oppose free speech, you're right about that, but many others in our crowd are basically free speech hardliners.

@ChristiJunior @matrix @daughter @jeff Watch out for the Jesus freaks. I just read a ridiculous anti-speech argument supporting the death penalty for heresy because heresy violates God's rights under libel law.

Pretty harsh penalty for libel...

@ChristiJunior @jeff @matrix

Iâm rather honest about ADL/AIPAC and Jewish influence in America but the levels of control that the alt-right ascribe to them is exaggerated to hilarious levels.

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@ChristiJunior @matrix @jeff The left does to some extent need the most batshit insane alt-right people to tar as many of their opponents as possible with that brush. They jumped on the Charlottesville spergery as an excuse to justify shutting as many people down as possible. Of course they'd censor regardless, but they'll do whatever they can to try to maintain an air of legitimacy while doing so.

@ArdanianRight @jeff @matrix Countries without a meaningful far right just shift even further Left even faster, because the center itself is sliding far to the Left. The fact that they now actually have to spend time and energy attacking and censoring alternate ideas is at least a sign that they're encountering significant pushback.

I've yet to see "centrists" actually inflict a significant ideological defeat on the SJW left.

@ChristiJunior @jeff @matrix Of course centrists are useless as far as mass political movements go. There are a few people who lean more centrist and are pretty empirical in general, and I respect them for that, but they're not going to be leading any popular pushback. There's just not enough of them.

@ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @jeff @matrix Charlottesville was a pretext. It could have been anything. Antifa were going to get someone killed with their psychotic, lawless behavior. It just happened there first.

When it happened all the censorship that resulted was ready to roll. Big social and the corporate matrix were just waiting for an excuse.

Same as the confederate flag purge after the church shooting. If it hadn't been that it would have been the next thing.

@matrix @jeff

I wouldn't call it symbiotic. One side has power, the other doesn't.
In a sane world where radical leftism did not gain a footing and open the floodgates to literally any outsider, among other things, neither would be in tbe limelight.

@jeff @matrix
>We are going to do a terrible thing to you--we are going to deprive you of an enemy.

-Georgi Arbatov, 1989

@matrix Spamming gay interracial porn at specific users goes well beyond "disagreeing with".

Twitter is a pro-Censorship shithole, but Sargon gave them every excuse in the world to Ban him.

@ChristiJunior
He got suspended for spaming interracial gay porn, but he got banned when he was arguing with the alt-right about the holocaust.

@matrix @ChristiJunior you can't question the neo nazis that's literally racist af tbh fam smh

@matrix How would he even know this? Doesn't Twitter usually refuse to justify their ban beyond Hawassment/Hate or identify the precise post that resulted in the ban? I certainly didn't get any proper explanation when I got Banned.

Even if he was wasting times attacking the alt-right when he got banned, that doesn't mean those posts were the reason behind it - he had plenty of posts out there that people had been reporting.

@ChristiJunior
Twitter usually doesn't give reasons. It's possible that some spergs went through his profile and mass reported posts.
Twitter is usually fairly quick at responding to reports.

@matrix Yes, that's what I thought as well.

Which means that when Sargon or his supporters are claiming that he got banned for arguing with the alt-right, they have no way of knowing that for sure. You're claiming something for certain that you have no way of knowing.

The facts are that a far larger share of the "alt-right" is getting Censored than the "centrists".

@ChristiJunior @matrix

Carl Benjamin - he's in the open now - gets a bad rap.

I don't fully support the man, but he is focusing on stopping mass immigration and Brexit. These are good things to accomplish.

@IsaacWestcott @matrix I mean, as long as he's pink pilling Normies and representing a decent enough political party (Current UKIP is apparently too "Islamophobic for Farage, lol), he fine in my book.

But to the extent that he's trying to do what Jordan Peterson brags about doing, namely turning "angry White men" away from the "far right", he's part of the problem.

@ChristiJunior @matrix

If people like him solve the main issues - demographic change, campaign finance, censorship - without having to resort to far-right means good.
I mean the guy has at multiple points in time supported the deportation of all Muslims from the UK. That's nothing to scoff at.

@ChristiJunior @matrix He was banned for being a prominent figure in Gamergate. The gay porn spam was just the excuse they were looking for. GG shook extremely-online leftists, like those that work at Twitter, to the core.

Oh, and radcens/liberalists/horseshoe theorists need both liberals and the alt-right to justify their arrogant preening and fart-sniffing about how superior they are to people that have ideals they choose to fight for.

@mrsaturday @matrix Horseshoe Theory Centrists remind of the dwarfs in Narnia: The Last Battle.

In effect, they help the Left far more than the Right, because they spend an inordinate amount of time attacking a politically powerless, extremely supressed political ideology to virtue signal how they're still good liberals despite not liking SJWs.

@matrix @ChristiJunior Sargon got banned when he was losing an argument with the alt-right about the holocaust, a religious apocrypha of the prevailing power that falls apart when you pull out a calculator and do a 7th grade algebra problem solving for how many crematorium ovens with the constants of 5 years, 2.5 hours per cadaver, and 6 million cadavers. If it were 32 AD, he would've been banned for arguing in favor of how 5,000 people ate 5 loaves and 2 fish. If it were 1440 BC, he would've been banned for trying to explain how the Red Sea parted for the Exodus. These are religious myths which it is heretical to discuss in any way (because they're not true). Sargon did not supplicate himself to the meta-religion of the powers-that-be and so he is a heretic. There are a lot of people wandering around in confusion not understanding how things are playing out. I would just say to those people that if you don't understand the plays that are being made there's something about your own understanding of the situation that's missing. That's not to say that the "alt-right" is not a problem. It has become a serious problem. Agent provocateurs have successfully got a lot of idiots arguing in favor of "White" Anglo supremacy as a "serious answer" to the current state of Talmudic Anglo supremacy. The original alt-right point of "I don't want to be in charge of you, I want you to be in charge of yourselves" has been completely lost and that's not by accident. Carl Benjamin is one of these people who has no idea what's going on. He's just some dumbass podcaster that wandered into the biggest conflict in the known history of the world and started making snide comments. If he were any use, he'd level up as he was exposed to more arguments and points of view that he has the great fortune at this time to discuss firsthand with the people doing the research. Instead he's just a snake oil salesman repeating his drivel.

@jack @matrix @ChristiJunior good to see jack has learned how to post succinctly :Gordon

@jack @matrix @ChristiJunior

Could you explain what "Talmudic Anglo Supremacy" is and how it differs from "White Anglo Supremacy"?

@matrix Honestly theres going to be a smear by the MSM and the UK goverment about him now he could accutally have a chance of being elected