@opal @matrix I mean if your daughter was calling you a prick to your face the first time she interacted with your work, I feel like just about anyone would decide, "You know what? Fuck it, sure, CoC, just get out of my face."

@kick @matrix being his daughter doesnt give her a privileged position in the matter

@opal @matrix I mean, not in the ideal sense, but Linux Torvalds is a nice guy, it'd be weird if he didn't weight it higher than other opinions.

@opal @matrix I think the funniest thing about Linyos Torvaltos’s daughter signing the post-meritocracy manifetioewuqt8yv0ucxhinkk that the one Ruby “dev” made is that post-meritocracy for someone who is the daughter of the effective-BDFL implies nepotism.

@matrix @opal Re-reading his "official statement" on the matter the old Lunix Torvaldez basically said "Basically all of the people on twitter were hypocrites, but I saw an imageboard and those people disgust me so I was like, 'Eh, fuck it, fine.'"

@kick @matrix did you ever see my mailing list message on the coc matter

@opal @matrix Honestly I really hate electronic mail with a passion and until I make my own client probably will never use it for any recreational viewing of internet drama.

@matrix @opal


"I absolutely do not want to be seen as being in the same camp as the low-life scum on the internet that think it's OK to be a white nationalist Nazi, and have some truly nasty misogynistic, homophobic or transphobic behaviour. And those people were complaining about too much political correctness too, and in the process just making my public stance look bad."

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45664640

@kick @matrix god what a faggot. sure its distasteful to be prejudiced but it isnt a fucking global evil like many are making it out to be. the world isnt perfect nor should it be

@opal @matrix I actually think his opinion is like, fine?

@opal @matrix
"Have you read the Twitter feeds and other things by the people who seem to care more about the non-technical side? I think your 'hyped stories' is about as polite as you can put it. It's a morass of nastiness. Instead of a 'common goal', you end up with horrible fighting between different 'in-groups'.
"It's very polarising, and both sides love egging the other side on. It's not even a 'discussion', it's just people shouting at each other.
"That's actually the reason I for the longest time did not want to be involved with the whole CoC discussion in the first place. That whole subject seems to very easily just devolve and become unproductive. And I found a lot of the people who pushed for a CoC and criticised me for cursing to be hypocritical and pointless. I could easily point you to various tweet storms by people who criticise my 'white cis male' behaviour, while at the same time cursing more than I ever do.
"So that's my excuse for dismissing a lot of the politically correct concerns for years. I felt it wasn't worth it. Anybody who uses the words 'white cis male privilege' was simply not worth my time even talking to, I felt.
"And I'm still not apologising for my gender or the colour of my skin, or the fact that I happen to have the common sexual orientation."

@matrix @opal He just basically found the primal disgust in humanity that we all feel when looking at boomer social media.

@kick @matrix believing in guilt by association is "fine"?

@opal @matrix He wasn't guilt by associationing anyone, though. He was just saying that a small minority fucked it up for everyone.

@opal @matrix I think his only mistake was picking the wrong thing to put his weight against (Code of Conduct is stupid, GNU Kind Communications Guidelines are where it's at).

@kick @matrix i'd call "be[ing] seen as […] in the same camp as […] scum" as having some sort of guilty conscience

@opal @matrix I think you might be interpreting it literally [of having the same singular idea as BLANK] when it was intended figuratively [as having the same or tolerating personal views of BLANK].

@kick @matrix no, im talking about how he thinks others see him

@opal @matrix I'm trying to think of a way to elaborate on what I think his thought process is from my experiences with lots of Linux kernel contributors.

@opal
I'm betting his daughter forced him.
True, he wouldn't be able to do anything.