@matrix or just wholly separate white areas from non-white areas and let them extinguish themselves
@matrix @nerthos
except even OP suggests their genes be brought back into the broader whole of humanity through ethnic cleansing. That would not be a dead end so much as a detour
@jeffcliff @matrix A race has about a 0% chance of going extinct due to not having enough children. The conditions that lead to people having few children disappear as a population shrinks, and people start having lots of children again. The only things that could actually be a danger regarding organic population growth are substance abuse and abortions, which both cause lasting damage to the reproductive system.

Birthrates being higher=more power was only true in the era of swords and bows. Nigeria has 190 million people and Iceland has less than 400000, but do you see it as a real possibility that nigeria might be able to mount an invasion of scandinavia? Every serious war between a white nation and a black nation in modernity has ended with the black nation curbstomped. Africa might have a population that greatly outnumbers white continents but they have neither the industry, the social discipline nor the food independence to be a serious threat to any other continent, a few fleets could easily blockade the surrounding seas and drop the continent into a famine that would kill half the population. Even their population growth is a direct result of white interference in the form of humanitarian aid.

The only reason blacks are anywhere near an issue is because white countries let them. The situation is different with Asia, but the middle east tears itself apart constantly and east Asia would rather have economic influence than outright colonization.

Racial separation would only benefit whites. If that wasn't the case, blacks would be demanding to be left alone, not that whites let them take over their countries. The few times they've gotten whites to leave them alone the result has been famine.
@jeffcliff @matrix Nigeria's population could drop to 40 million if Europe casually decided they no longer want to allow a looming problem. Big populations are extremely easy to destroy, more so when they don't have the productive land in their own soil to sustain themselves.
@nerthos @matrix i think you are overestimating the ease of killing 700 million people, or allowing them to die. Nevermind the will to pull it off
@jeffcliff @matrix A few aircraft carrier groups and ICMBs, boom Africa's threat gone. You don't actually need to manually execute them one by one, they can barely feed themselves as it is. Firebomb some fields, thermobaric warheads to ports and industrial centers, keep the fleet on standby, 70% of the population dies of starvation and infighting within a decade. And that's without the use of nuclear weapons, which are on the table in the context of a world's-too-small-for-the-both-of-us war. The UK considered deployment of nuclear warheads in the 80s over two shitty islands with 2000 inhabitants, do you think most nuclear powers wouldn't use them if outright invaded?

It comes down to having the balls to put your countrymen's wellbeing over the wellbeing of an invader, which you can be sure the white world will do if it's genuinely threatened and the atrocities go from trucks of peace to actual genocide. They've done it enough times already, even when society was deeply religious.
@jeffcliff @matrix My suggestion of isolation is ultimately for the sake of preventing needing to go into genocidal war to protect a race. If we start with separation soon, non-white countries would be forced to stabilize their populations and solve their infrastructure and food needs before being enough of a threat that a war has to be initiated.
@nerthos @jeffcliff @matrix just put a wall around the desert dreg, nobody here wants it.
@cereal @nerthos @matrix speak for yourself. In 700M there's bound to be a few beautiful, intelligent, single women. I've got a date tonight but ... I'd definitely be game if they moved to canada.
@nerthos @matrix that's not the only way to prevent genocide. We could also work with them to stabilize their population (rather than do what G W Bush did)
@jeffcliff @matrix Right, because they're totally concerned about that. The few individuals in Africa that aren't completely unconcerned with the future of the continent are looking to move into non-black countries.
Every effort to "help" africa will fail, because they will always rely on the assumption that they're as capable as the people of other continents and that they will work for their own best interest. If you actually want to help Africa, blockade it and remove from the heads of all Africans that the rest of the world owes them anything or is willing to lend any help. Only once they realize no one but themselves will lift a finger to prevent their extinction will they do anything to fix their situation. "Helping" is what got us into this mess in the first place.
@nerthos @matrix except they probably won't look like an invasion if germany is any indication, it'll be more like a slow drip of millions of people into europe as countries implode, ie what we are seeing
@jeffcliff @matrix As I said, "as long as white countries let them"
Germany is a colony and its government isn't acting in the interest of its population. Any sane government would be mobilizing the armed forces to stop the invasion.
@nerthos @jeffcliff @matrix and that is why I think it's idiocy to demand we let every nog in to "stabilize" our population. It will find equilibrium in due time and I don't see why 10 million less people would be a bad thing considering we got enough welfare cases as it is.
@cereal @jeffcliff @matrix Yes, "low birthrates" are only an issue if your focus is to mantain a consummerist economy going on. A country doesn't need more than a few million people per 100000km2.

Africa's take on the issue, doubling its population every few decades, is just suicidal. Europe was doing fine when it let its population stabilize itself according to the wishes of families.
@matrix

both? I think there are worse things, like reading that Marx and Engels were "straight white cis males"

some people are just stupid and couple that with impotence so they just write dumb shit online
@matrix Sometimes I find this sort of stuff chilling for a while, and then I encounter one of these total lunatics in real life and realise I have nothing to worry about.
@matrix "There is no diaper bigger than the internet."--Chris Onstad, Achewood
@matrix
"Do(ing) what Mao did for education"
"Newspeak but unironically"
You sure this isn't a joke?
@nerthos @matrix @parusmajor I just hit the Wikipedia page for "Cultural Revolution" because that was Peak Maoist Education.

Even the Party backed off from that shit after they executed the Gang of Four. Mao's thoughts on education were mainly related to slogan-chanting, rallies, and violence.
@p @matrix @parusmajor Every commie's take on "education" ever. After all, it's impossible to sell communism to anyone that's not either ignorant or incompetent.
@nerthos @matrix @parusmajor Yeah, the commie strategy is exactly equivalent to "Just nuke their capital" but applied to building domestic consensus around policy rather than effecting foreign policy.
@p @parusmajor @matrix I think they know and that this is exactly what they want. It's a Year Zero cult.
@matrix anyway even without changing anything racial distinctions will become more and more blurred due to large population movement allowed by improved transportation and globalization
in a few hundred years there'll be only one human race, maybe with the exception of some isolated/protectionist communities
@matrix the only take i agree with is that english needs to be replaced, mostly because it's the linguistic equivalent of dog shit
@tuxcrafting @matrix I've seen people claim this, but I don't think the number back it up. Ingroup preferences are still something like 98 percent and actually rising.
@tuxcrafting @matrix If you look at the numbers, probably we will see designer babies and an end to race as we know it through that method hundreds if not thousands of years before we would have seen this sort of homogeneous mixing take place.
@tuxcrafting @matrix I doubt there will ever be only one human race. Because people have families from different nations, cultures and there will be differing skin tones and other biological differences... there will still be differences between humans which will be picked on. The only time there will be only one human race is a huge extermination of different people to the chosen one human race, and forcing a set culture and identity onto the ones remaining. Even if you take out the outliers from the equation. People have been trying to conquer humans for generations, and failed in this regard to create a one people or human race.

Perhaps globohomo has this as the end goal? Or of just two races: masters and slaves? @sim @tuxcrafting @matrix

@sim @matrix the different is that in this era people are willingly assimilating into a single, shared global (or at least western) culture
@tuxcrafting @matrix Really? While they keep a hold of their own cultural norms? People are still divided in western culture and keep to people that share similar values to them. They remain in a bubble. Even if they have to share a neighbourhood or workplace with a diverse range of people, they are still in a bubble. If they really willingly assimilated, then I don't think there would be these differences, I don't think they would even keep a hold on their non-western faiths or ideals. It's hard to kill your childhood beliefs that are ingrained in you from your upbringing, and culture is passed down through family still. Although perhaps that won't be such an issue moving forwards if the family is destroyed and divided, and if the state gets to decide the education and culture children follow.
@matrix funny because it's obvious that's just a freeloader on daddy's shekels.

@matrix I can't even tell if it's a parody. (Poe's Law?)

@djsumdog @matrix I swear these people don’t go outside and just spend all day in the warp dimension that is twitter. Shit’ll fuck you up, man.

@1iceloops123 @djsumdog @matrix nah, that’s just Boston. That’s normal over there I’m told.

>architects will design whole blocks at a time >ban suits & ties Only parts I agree with. @matrix

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