german gov taught us that hate speech isnt free speech so fighting for free speech is pointless :brain8:

@igel
Accepting your enemy's terms means that they have already won

@matrix
scenario one: I want free speech which includes hate speech
Germans: so youre a nazi?

scenario two: since you fuckers dont believe in real free speech, I want legal hate speech
Germans: so youre a nazi?
Me: Yes but ironically

@igel
Ironic Nazi is still a Nazi in the eyes of the fun police. You just presented a lose lose scenario.

@matrix how is there a win scenario you dipshit larper? The only solution would be to kill all politicians
@matrix Im all for some good ol terrorism, but I cant say im currently planning on doing it
@matrix well you play the youtube influencer games, which are honestly jsut super lame and amount to nothing. Killing a single politican does more than watch 1000 videos of some dipshit american

@igel
I mean, yeah it does more, but is that more beneficial?

@matrix what exactly is your goal even? Do you think voting does jack shit here?
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@igel
Just voting by itself is indeed useless. You need to become a cringy activist and get people on your side.

@matrix I have been in contact with cringy german activists a few years ago and they dont do anything other than media stunts that dont sway the public one bit
@matrix also half of them were supposedly "ex" nazis, so fuck hanging out with these retards
@igel @matrix because most of them are probably left leaning and too woke.
@1iceloops123 @matrix no, they were too authoritarian. They jsut wanted to kick out muzzies and talked about muh ethostate
@matrix @1iceloops123 well being racist and being a nazi are different things. If youre not dumb

@igel
I mean yes. Not liking Islam is a logic position, but an ethnostate? It's not exclusive to Nazis but not really that far.

@1iceloops123

@matrix @igel like to be honest i don't like the idea of islam but i'm just a white guy.
@matrix @1iceloops123 do you think germans who dont want muzzies here actually want them out because of "islam"?
Nigger, nobody gives a fuck about islam here. Otherwise youd ahve to let in all these faithful black christians my dude
@igel @matrix like i think all native people don't really like immigration.
@1iceloops123 @matrix it would be ok if they were educated and spoke german, investing years of their life to fit in somewhat. But not even other EUROPEANS do that
@igel @matrix well i bet most americans feel about it but them to speak english.

@igel
No I don't, because most people don't know shit about Islam. I think the reasons are economic and fear of cultural change.
@1iceloops123

@matrix @1iceloops123 muslims changed jack shit about germans themselves other than prove that they were indeed, part of their respective lower classes. Which is why they even came to begin with. All the educated turks stayed in turkey

@igel
Changed shit? Really? What about the crime stats?
Yeah, like I said, economic.
@1iceloops123

@matrix @1iceloops123 germans do crime too. My dad grew up in a ghetto himself, which is how he met my migrant polack mom. He did stuff like break open cars etc
@matrix @1iceloops123 if you wanna talk with a german about this who grew up like "da real respectful whitey" or whatever, then im your wrong address. Also russians are way worse than turks lmao
@matrix @1iceloops123 because only the losers leave their own coutnries to work some shitty bob the builder job in germany

@igel
Don't forget the gibs. It's the reason basically no migrants during the migrant crisis stayed in the Czech Republic.
@1iceloops123

@matrix @1iceloops123 my mom lived on gibts for more than 10 years so I cant really judge
@igel @matrix i guess you could be woke and alt right too. like i bet it's hard to do that in germany or any european country unless things gotten worse again. like everyone over here is scared of corona i just don't want it. same with the flu. but i think if woke people keep rioting here we might have a alt right movment or alt left one going...
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