@matrix why would one make a meme poking fun at people losing their human rights to a tyrannical government seeking to enslave it's people? Seems pretty fucked up to me...

I don't care what side someone's on, this is affecting all of us equally at this point... Just my thoughts...

@matrix doesn't mean you should be using the freedom to promote division of the population that ultimately results in the death of millions and millions of people that could have been avoided. Globalism is just bad man.

@MakeAmericaFreeAgain @matrix Humor is how lots of people deal with fucked up absurd shit. Not everyone can just "cry it off" or whatever. You never realise how much of a crutch jokes are until you're not allowed to make them.

Example- had to handle a few dissected "cadavers" in some labs not so long ago. The lab supervisors told us we had to be respectful etc. (no jokes.) The whole time I had to control this spasmodic urge to make retarded unfunny wisecracks like "he do be lookin kinna fresh doe" - I'm not even kidding it was practically an involuntary reflex. I wasn't finding it funny in my head. I didn't really appreciate how much of a defense mechanism it was until I found myself in a situation where I couldn't use it. But yeah - humor helps. Don't deprive people of their cope. Shitposting is my human right goddamnit. Normie fashy faggot :ablobcatgrumpy:
@cassidyclown @MakeAmericaFreeAgain @matrix exactly. When they have anatomy everybody knows it's dead people and someone saying please don't make jokes about the size of the prostate will just make people think about that.

@cassidyclown @matrix fair fair, but you just made a joke about human rights violations. I'm all for freedom of expression sure, but its a bit sadistic to laugh at crimes against humanity in my opinion. Its kind of like laughing about the holocaust to me; its just in poor taste. (Also, please do not say something like, "I did Nazi that coming." 😒😒😒)

Freedom of expression is fine, but I just wonder where the lack of compassion for humanity comes from is all.

@MakeAmericaFreeAgain @matrix Just because you crack a joke about serious shit doesn't mean you don't have compassion.

Humor is rooted in absurdity. What is happening in the world is patently absurd. It's absurd that someone would draw up blueprints for building designs, employ people, make speeches and propaganda films all in order to efficiently commit genocide. However dark, there is inevitably humor in that absurdity.

It's absurd that there's a genocide happening in the world right now and more people in the west are upset about punny one-liner holocaust jokes than for the real fucking deal that's happening in their own lifetime- that people minimize and deny it with far less consequence. That's funny in a fucked up way- all it needs is a punchline.

To recognize the absurdity at all is to realize that something's wrong. It's one of the few ways you can hold onto that realization and keep it in your brain without killing yourself or going insane. I'm sick of self-righteous people who refuse to talk about the icky absurdities of the world because they find it too burdensome for their wittle brains, who push it out of their minds as soon as they get the chance but say that the clownworld meme shitposter is "sadistic" for posting a cartoon on the internet. Sometimes I wonder if what they really found offensive is the fact that someone brought it up at all.

Humor brings attention to the evils of the world. It highlights what is fucked up about them. Satire has been a form of critique and protest for a long long time. And as you pointed out - it's a shared struggle and I would much prefer to suffer in the company of someone who's going to make me laugh.

Gay multiparagraph rant i know.

@cassidyclown @matrix gay as fuck, but I understand where you are coming from in a sense. I personally just didn't think the meme was funny tbh. My apologies for being a douche about it.

Everyone's sense of humor is different.

I think bernie memes are funnier tbh, but I'm laughing at the same things you are when it all gets boiled down really.

@MakeAmericaFreeAgain @matrix All good man no need to apologize lol - it's what this place is for. And yeah everyone's funny is different.

(my funny is objectively the superior funny tho :comfycofesneaky: )
@MakeAmericaFreeAgain @cassidyclown @matrix
If people don't laugh they kill themselves. The ability to laugh is what has always sustained humans, making jokes about the worst things imaginable is how people go on living.

If you don't believe me talk to some paramedics they all will tell you jokes about the worst shit they have seen, scratching human remains out of trains, ridiculous deaths or the worst mentally ill you can find. The alternative is taking it all seriously, which is a mental strain not very many can handle.

Also, if you want to hear a funny joke it is "human rights", it literally doesn't even exist and the concept bis fundamentally retarded.

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @matrix @cassidyclown God given rights = human rights. I suppose if you do not believe in a higher power then no you would not understand. Not exactly "retarded" as you put it, but to appeal to your logic it's a matter of difference in brain structure and neurochemicals due to VMAT2 expression. Which you may be lacking, or you may just be heavy endowed with genetic factors that make you a cunt. Idk lol

@MakeAmericaFreeAgain @matrix @cassidyclown >God given rights = human rights
God didn't write down his laws on December the 10. 1948.

Also there are no "God given rights", a right is something enforced.
I do believe in a God given dignity, which dictates that each human being has to be treated with a particular respect, but this isn't a right. You can't go anywhere and complain that someone has violated your God given dignity, no court will hear that case (it's a jurisdiction issue).

The language of "rights" itself is quite toxic, as it undermines the need for ethical thought. When morality just means "obeying the law" it has degenerated to a state of absurdity and is the opponent of any genuine ethics.

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @matrix @cassidyclown the constitution was written in 1776 pal. Those are the rights to which I refer. The ones set forth by the founding fathers. The ones your referred to were put forth by a committee largely run by globalist dictators seeking to reach their hands into other countries further. This was the reason Trump took America out of this committee, but the logic behind that decision is debatable.

@Atlas_Khan @matrix @cassidyclown @servant_of_the_anime_avatars as I said, we are free to do as we so please right? And since my values may differ from your values. Then what is ethics or morality really? An opinion. A meaningless opinion.

@MakeAmericaFreeAgain @matrix @cassidyclown @servant_of_the_anime_avatars your argument is based on subjectivity rather than objectivity. Use razors to better measure ones beliefs, or simply if it does not function/work in macro and micro it is of no value.
@MakeAmericaFreeAgain @Atlas_Khan @matrix @cassidyclown Since I am already stealing all my takes from him, I have to mention Alisdair MacIntyre and his "after virtue" here, who addresses exactly that question of "emotivism" you ask.

@cassidyclown @matrix @servant_of_the_anime_avatars bah. I suppose, but by that logic then all rules, regulation, and authority is non-existent too then right? If the foundation of the entire legal frameworks of our nation is flawed, then we are free to do anything we want right?

@MakeAmericaFreeAgain @cassidyclown @matrix
> I suppose, but by that logic then all rules, regulation, and authority is non-existent too then right?
No. The US government does enforce certain laws, that makes them real, at least in a functional sense.
Those rights aren't assumed to be Universally applicable or constant.

Human rights have to universal and constant to be meaningful. And while the UN human rights have *some* enforcement power it is just some ridiculous documents where, as you pointed out, some dictators and UN officials, wrote down some nice sounding shit and said "that is law".
@MakeAmericaFreeAgain @matrix @servant_of_the_anime_avatars

The point is we shouldn't forget the thought and philosophy that went into creating those laws and frameworks. They're not just arbitrary rules someone came up with one day out of the blue. The Federalist papers are thick not because the principles laid out themselves are particularly complicated or verbose but because the authors sought to justify them, and it's the justification that gives them validity. And that's on top of the millennia of human philosophical debate that laid the foundations for that.

But if you treat "rights" like magic one-size-fits-all tickets then you do end up reducing them to arbitrary things. People get lazy and lose the process of ethical thought that is needed to apply them. Without applying that process of rational thought, then they're meaningless.

"Because God said so" is not the only non-arbitrary justification- and many would argue it to be the height of arbitrariness.
@MakeAmericaFreeAgain @matrix @cassidyclown
>The ones your referred to were put forth by a committee largely run by globalist dictators seeking to reach their hands into other countries further.
Why does one have more legitimacy then the other?


I wouldn't know why some enlightenment era document from rebels against the English crown should have any relevance to me. The US government has no legislative power over me and only very limited rights to enforce it's laws over me.
Without a doubt it does not describe human rights.

@servant_of_the_anime_avatars @matrix @cassidyclown why would one come to a platform like this without having already seen why such a regime of globalist dictators pose a threat to free speech and free expression which is what this whole debate initiated on.

@cassidyclown @MakeAmericaFreeAgain @matrix Saying the N word is how lots of people deal with fucked up absurd shit. Not everyone can just "cry it off" or whatever. You never realise how much of a crutch N words are until you're not allowed to say them.

Example- had to handle a few dissected "cadavers" in some labs not so long ago. The lab supervisors told us we had to be respectful etc. (no N words.) The whole time I had to control this spasmodic urge to say retarded unfunny N words like "he do be a nigger doe" - I'm not even kidding it was practically an involuntary reflex. I wasn't finding it funny in my head. I didn't really appreciate how much of a defense mechanism it was until I found myself in a situation where I couldn't say it. But yeah - the N word helps. Don't deprive people of their cope. Racism is my human right goddamnit. Nigger nigger nigger :ablobcatgrumpy:

@bbb @matrix @cassidyclown waiting for someone to come out of the woodwork and start flipping out on you...

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