@matrix the conditional hypotheticals one and the recursion one is literally true. I worked at an inner city youth center aimed at getting troubled kids off the streets in my city when I was younger. Literally talking to even the 16-18 year olds was a challenge 95% of the time. When you had to help them do their basic algebra 1 homework you basically figured out there was no point trying to hold a beyond basic conversation with them. I remember the one night we had a terrible time getting one kid to leave cause he just wanted to play the xbox we had there. Felt bad for the kid, but he had to go home (afaik his parents weren’t abusive they were just dumb cause they were some of the few parents that would actually come in and watch their kid play in the basketball leagues we had). I remember the next day sitting with the kid and telling him he can’t do the same stuff again that day. I said “how would your mom feel if you didn’t come home?” And he goes “I did come home” I said “I know but if you didn’t she would be upset” he goes “no I did go home” and I go “yes but if you didn’t she wouldn’t be happy right?” And he just starts going “kayla why the fuck are you saying I didn’t go home when you watched me leave. are you dumb?”
It’s absolutely mind boggling to have a convo with these people until you figure out that they can’t comprehend shit the way you and I do. And forget telling them that somebody was saying something about somebody else doing something cause that just blows their fucking minds lol. It’s pretty sad actually. A lot of my views on politics and the world in general come from my time working there. Really got to see the world for what it was.
Now I wanna try these experiments on my friends