@vriska Managers are required at any larger scale though even if they technically "don't contribute"

@matrix no they arent

@vriska Yes they are

@matrix wrong

@matrix @vriska The solution to this is to never reach that scale. It causes nothing but problems.

@Alex @vriska Then economies of scale won't kick in though

@matrix @vriska And that's a good thing.

@Alex @matrix @vriska one alternate: we call them officers and fucking over their crew is a capital offence.