FFMpeg wiki: "For source files of 1080p and 720p av1 optimization is not optimal, most of the time is better to go with the H265 for better vmaf/size ratio"

Here, av1 is 330mb, h265 is 620mb.

I used hardware acceleration for HEVC but I doubt it would make that much difference

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I used hardware acceleration for HEVC but I doubt it would make that much difference

it absolutely does. hardware encoders are pretty terrible.

@mia Yeah, you were right. I used the same CQ and it ended up with a similar quality and only 250mb, but it took 3h hours instead of 10 minutes and I used the slowest present on both.
I don't think hardware encoders are terrible, offline transcoding just isn't their intended use case.

@matrix yup. should do better with CRF at similar size fwiw, at least that was the case with x264. CQP cripples rate control.

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@mia Oh, thanks, it does much better. It's faster with quality closer to the av1 encode at only 180mb

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