@r000t @graf @lain yeah, the fuck cars people are absolutely brainwashed retards, but when I'm on vacation and the main promenade is next the sidewalk of a road that's constantly full of traffic and the outdoor seating is just there next to the road, yeah, I kinda get it. And electric cars are not going to fix that because modern gas cars are already whisper quiet and most noise comes from the wind and tires, and motorbikes, I absolutely despise motorbikes. A single motorbike is as loud as a heavy truck or construction vehicle, it overpowers all the cars around it making any efforts for quieter road traffic absolutely meaningless. And those motorbikes are everywhere in Italy and southern France.