@mewmew The Republican party is milquetoast as fuck in most regards, except for some holdover religous issues that no one actually cares about anymore. @terryenglish @a7
@shampoobottle @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @a7 Not even a lot of those lol
Ain't no Republicans talking about gay marriage nowadays
@realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @mewmew @terryenglish there is the abortion issue, but while im extremely far left and could be described a socialist i dont like abortion so i agree with them there.
@a7 @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle Abortion is the only religious issue mainstream GOP member care about.
I think this is why the Religious Right is viewed as extreme by many; they're the only ones that are still railing against gay marriage.
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7 Really? The policies? I would argue, more like their motives.
But I could see that, for those who want gay sex, sodomy, adultery, etc. banned
@mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish I dunno, some, a lot of democrat voters use to be catholic before abortion stuff
@mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish well a lot of Catholics support those things, they just find abortion that abhorrent they think simply opposing that is the lesser of the two evils. Most catholics are against trump’s hard line on immigration and treatment of social services.
Even southern Catholics were fairly left-wing for...religious people living in the southern United States during the 1950s and 1960s. Unlike many denominations, Catholics didn't have whites-only churches during that time, though things of course weren't perfect.
Plenty of people forget that Catholics were integrating schools as early as the 1950s, _in the south._
@kick @mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish they still speak of divorce as not an option with in the teachings, but the congregates dont seem to pay much attention to the teachings, they are more willing to give annulments after reviewing things like domestic abuse and mental illness. I feel like the priest and bishops have a much different understanding of the religion that they seemingly have lost the ability to impart in recent years. That led to the conservative catholic, a mix of culture and other things. A large amount of immigrant support and legal help is provided by churches, food kitchens and homeless shelters.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/13/pope-endorsement-softens-stance-on-divorced-catholics
@kick @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7 I'm not Catholic or super knowledgeable in their theology but I would like to add that in Christianity, abuse is grounds for divorce.
Modern variants of 'Christianity' aren't particularly adhering to anything resembling the Christian faith.
Put in context, it makes a point of the polar opposite of what the site is using it to imply. I'm not sure which translation you find most honest, but here's a site that allows you to flip between them:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+7%3A10-15
@kick
Thanks, I use NKJV.
How is it different than what the article suggests?
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7
@realcaseyrollins @kick @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle because its saying you really shouldnt and it goes on to say in Corinthians accept your current place in life and only act in peace and love. Basically you can let them leave you if they are an unbeliever but you arent suppose to leave them for it.
@a7
Read the Matthew passage.
@kick @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle
@realcaseyrollins @kick @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle yes but with the doctrine of love and forgiveness established along with all the other contextual points na not really John 8:7 When therefore they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said to them: He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
@a7
How does that nullify Jesus' words in Matthew? 🤔
@kick @mewmew @shampoobottle
@realcaseyrollins @kick @mewmew @shampoobottle it doesnt, just coupled with forgiveness, the concept goes out the window, christ forgives all sins, you are called to be ‘christ like’ a ‘saint’ and saint wouldnt leave their husband if they cheated on them, they would always forgive.
@a7
While you're right...it can't be ignored that infidelity is a permissible ground for divorce. Jesus said so.
@kick @mewmew @shampoobottle
@realcaseyrollins @kick @mewmew @shampoobottle its not recorded in either parallel account, - Mark 10:11-12 - Luke 16:18
and corinthians 7:10-11, 39 - romans 7:2-3
also he was speaking to a group of pharisees in your cited verse
i dunno theology is impossible to really argue more throughly than it already has - you can look at the arguments and make your decision. I couldnt argue any better than the others who already have.
@a7
Parallel accounts aren't identical; each account has a different set of details.
@kick @mewmew @shampoobottle
10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.
Notice how 12 begins:
12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord):
@kick
Picking this passage and saying "Christians can't ever get divorced" is like saying "thou shalt not kill" nullifies the death penalty and makes self-defense sinful. Both divorce and killing are fine, in special cases.
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7
@kick
What's "neo-protestantism"?
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7
@kick
What's unscriptural about neo-protestantism?
@mewmew @shampoobottle @a7
@kick
Care to provide an example?
@mewmew @shampoobottle @a7
@kick
What do you like about Orthodox theology?
@mewmew @shampoobottle @a7
@realcaseyrollins @kick @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle only if they force you to sin basically right before that 7:14 : For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the believing wife; and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the believing husband: otherwise your children should be unclean; but now they are holy. (DRA)