@terryenglish @shampoobottle @a7 no, they are not, because the Republican party has gone absolutely insane over the past ten years.

@terryenglish @a7 @shampoobottle Democrats are what Republicans were a few years back, but Republicans now are far crazier.

@mewmew The Republican party is milquetoast as fuck in most regards, except for some holdover religous issues that no one actually cares about anymore. @terryenglish @a7

@shampoobottle @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @a7 Not even a lot of those lol

Ain't no Republicans talking about gay marriage nowadays

@realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @mewmew @terryenglish there is the abortion issue, but while im extremely far left and could be described a socialist i dont like abortion so i agree with them there.

@a7 @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle Abortion is the only religious issue mainstream GOP member care about.

I think this is why the Religious Right is viewed as extreme by many; they're the only ones that are still railing against gay marriage.

@realcaseyrollins @a7 @terryenglish @shampoobottle The religious right is viewed as extreme because the policies they take are all virtue signalling.

@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7 Really? The policies? I would argue, more like their motives.

But I could see that, for those who want gay sex, sodomy, adultery, etc. banned

@realcaseyrollins @terryenglish @shampoobottle @a7 I'm talking about being anti-abortion, anti-sex ed, and anti-birth control which is 100% virtue signalling - especially when they don't support simple welfare programs or healthcare for all which would save a significant amount of lives.

@mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish I dunno, some, a lot of democrat voters use to be catholic before abortion stuff

@a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish wdym?

@mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish well a lot of Catholics support those things, they just find abortion that abhorrent they think simply opposing that is the lesser of the two evils. Most catholics are against trump’s hard line on immigration and treatment of social services.

@a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish yeah, those were not the people I was referring to

@a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish well, the people who find abortion more evil than policies that objectively cause people to die are idiotic.

@a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish especially because the Bible doesn't condemn abortion and in fact supports it in some places but whatever.

@mewmew @a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish God isn't wrong about many things but baby murder is definitely one of those things I think he needed to take a chill-pill on. Like, Dude, they're just babies! Why kill them? Psychopath!

@mewmew @a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish But yeah, seriously, 1960s Catholics were awesome.

@kick @a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish this is why I like you - your positions are contrarian to everyone

@mewmew @a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish Pretty much everyone likes the Kennedy family pre-Ted. Catholics started out their stay in America as a punished minority (partially the reason the United States had religious freedom), and Catholic culture as a result was fairly strongly left-wing, economically and socially.

Even southern Catholics were fairly left-wing for...religious people living in the southern United States during the 1950s and 1960s. Unlike many denominations, Catholics didn't have whites-only churches during that time, though things of course weren't perfect.

Plenty of people forget that Catholics were integrating schools as early as the 1950s, _in the south._

@mewmew @a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish Modern Catholicism is obviously a bastardized version of what used to exist, conservative by 1800's standards outside of the subject of divorce, which they mysteriously like now, but things weren't always this way.

@kick @mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish they still speak of divorce as not an option with in the teachings, but the congregates dont seem to pay much attention to the teachings, they are more willing to give annulments after reviewing things like domestic abuse and mental illness. I feel like the priest and bishops have a much different understanding of the religion that they seemingly have lost the ability to impart in recent years. That led to the conservative catholic, a mix of culture and other things. A large amount of immigrant support and legal help is provided by churches, food kitchens and homeless shelters.

@a7 @mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish This is heavily dependent on archdiocese, I think. The stance has definitely changed overall, though:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/13/pope-endorsement-softens-stance-on-divorced-catholics

@kick @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7 I'm not Catholic or super knowledgeable in their theology but I would like to add that in Christianity, abuse is grounds for divorce.

@realcaseyrollins @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle @a7 That's not exactly the truth. In Christianity, certain things can be ground for annulment (which gets stretched very far in the modern age), but nothing grounds for divorce. Any denomination that permits divorce is bordering heretic to the actual faith.

Modern variants of 'Christianity' aren't particularly adhering to anything resembling the Christian faith.

@kick @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7

@realcaseyrollins @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle @a7 That's the most disingenuous citation of that passage (talking 1 Corinthians 7:15) I've ever seen.

Put in context, it makes a point of the polar opposite of what the site is using it to imply. I'm not sure which translation you find most honest, but here's a site that allows you to flip between them:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+7%3A10-15

@kick
Thanks, I use NKJV.

How is it different than what the article suggests?

@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7