Heh, apparently I got 12 invites for private messages on Matrix a day or 2 ago. It's the same account inviting me 12 times, which was not possible to condense to a single request, for reasons.
Luckily, Matrix is blazing fast, so rejecting an invite only takes about 10 seconds. And you need to reject them individually, of course.
Then you notice that these invites aren't disappearing, even though I clicked "Reject", I got a spinner for about 10 seconds, and the screen changed to the room I was in before checking out the invite.
I want to like Matrix, but quality software is so low on their priorities that it's ridiculously hard to do so. Suggesting it to a friend is completely out of the question.
Luckily, Matrix is blazing fast, so rejecting an invite only takes about 10 seconds. And you need to reject them individually, of course.
Then you notice that these invites aren't disappearing, even though I clicked "Reject", I got a spinner for about 10 seconds, and the screen changed to the room I was in before checking out the invite.
I want to like Matrix, but quality software is so low on their priorities that it's ridiculously hard to do so. Suggesting it to a friend is completely out of the question.
@tyil Werks4me. Maybe you're just bad at it?
@anornymorse I've rejected private chat invites before (which I don't think is a great feature to begin with), so I know it should work. It just... doesn't for these 12 invites. I see a request being sent to the server, which shows no errors, and it only takes a measly 12 fucking seconds to get a response.
@tyil ...and this is an @matrix.org account you're working with, correct?
@anornymorse Correct.
@tyil So, you're completely unaware of how this "federation" thing works, and that you should probably not create a new account on the most popular/centralized/overloaded server, then condemn the entire protocol for your mistake of centralization?
Because that's how it sounds.
Because that's how it sounds.
@anornymorse I am aware. I happen to also host the Pleroma instance I'm posting from.
I know the Matrix team blames the users for using the service instead of fixing their problems, yes. This is by no means a new account, though. I've had it for years. Even if it were, it is absolutely retarded to keep registration open for all, and then blame the users for registering. Especially since not a single Matrix room is as active as the average IRC channel I'm in, and I seem to have a great response time there, and they're on way less (financial) resources. Clearly, it is very possible to make a chat system that's fast when there's over a hundred users. Only Matrix seems to fail this incredibly low bar.
Lastly not blaming the protocol for "the mistake of centralization". I'm complaining about a bug that doesn't let me use a feature they make me use, in this case, invites for a private conversation. Nice evasion of the problem, though. This is why nobody takes the Matrix people seriously.
I know the Matrix team blames the users for using the service instead of fixing their problems, yes. This is by no means a new account, though. I've had it for years. Even if it were, it is absolutely retarded to keep registration open for all, and then blame the users for registering. Especially since not a single Matrix room is as active as the average IRC channel I'm in, and I seem to have a great response time there, and they're on way less (financial) resources. Clearly, it is very possible to make a chat system that's fast when there's over a hundred users. Only Matrix seems to fail this incredibly low bar.
Lastly not blaming the protocol for "the mistake of centralization". I'm complaining about a bug that doesn't let me use a feature they make me use, in this case, invites for a private conversation. Nice evasion of the problem, though. This is why nobody takes the Matrix people seriously.
@tyil That's a whole lot of words just to cover up for the fact that I was correct twice.
Go make an account on another matrix instance, watch your problems disappear for multiple reasons.
Go make an account on another matrix instance, watch your problems disappear for multiple reasons.
@anornymorse @tyil A new instance doesn't magically solve all problems. I did run an instance myself on decent hardware and still had problems. You could doubt my abilities to administrate my own server but even the matrix team has always problems. I mean they even had to abandon their main channel once because it was "corrupted".
How should Matrix improve if nobody acknowledges that problems exists?
How should Matrix improve if nobody acknowledges that problems exists?
@anornymorse @interru If the problem is solved by federation, and Matrix is a federated protocol, how am I still encountering the problem? Now I'm starting to wonder if you actually know what federation is.
@tyil @interru
> Everyone being on the same matrix.org server is totally federation!
You're neat. You make me laugh.
> Everyone being on the same matrix.org server is totally federation!
You're neat. You make me laugh.
@anornymorse @interru So you're saying Matrix is not a federated protocol, and matrix.org is currently not federating with any other servers?
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If there's a decentralized platform but everybody uses the same node, is it really decentralized? 💁🏾♂️
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@realcaseyrollins @anornymorse @interru I mean, there's multiple nodes out there, I'm chatting with a couple people (on IRC) that use different ones. They still have plenty of problems, and a lot of latency. Clearly, there's federation already, so I'm skeptical that "federation" is going to solve all issues Matrix (and its clients) are enduring.
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> "I mean" = "no argument, but here's some more words"
You didn't even try to prove me wrong. you just got triggered, typed, and got your followers to defend you.
> "I mean" = "no argument, but here's some more words"
You didn't even try to prove me wrong. you just got triggered, typed, and got your followers to defend you.
