@djsumdog He's done this before, but he's just never been attacked at this level.

@djsumdog @realcaseyrollins cant forget this other Alex Jones rotoscope from Scanner Darkly

@djsumdog @realcaseyrollins

you should speak in specifics

give specific solutions to specific real problems

in this vid you are just repeating the abstractions we have all heard

so you tell us nothing

@EMPEROR @realcaseyrollins This is just a part of a movie from the early 2000s called Waking Life. It's a series of montages and it's very good. Alex Jones is only in it for 5 min and I didn't realize it was him until over a decade later. Most of the movie does not deal with politics, but about life, dreams and growth. It's a very good film; highly recommend.

@vnarek I'm tryna tell y'all, it's the white people who are being violent up in these streets

@realcaseyrollins

Its white and black people. Mostly just depends on where your at.

Every time I see a looting video though I try to take a general count of white vs black and seems generally 90% black when it comes to looting. At least based on almost all videos I've seen. I have yet to see a looting video with majority white.

@vnarek

@realcaseyrollins @vnarek

To that point look at the video more closely. what color are the people not destroying the car, standing on the sidewalk.. all white too.

Looks like the color distribution of the general population in the area is the exact same as the color distribution of the people destroying the car. As to be expected.

@freemo @vnarek You're right, it's very mixed. It depends on the location, sometimes it's majority black, and sometimes it's majority white. But I must say, I've seen more violence from whites than blacks throughout this entire thing. Plenty of black are just standing around shouting or dancing.

@realcaseyrollins

To me it looks like vast majority black, BUT again not because i think the blacks are more violent. Only because most of what is taking place is in inner cities so the black population is higher there.

But if we are just talking about numbers, it seems to lean black from random videos I tend to see.

@vnarek

@freemo
I just don't think that this is a race war, because both races are involved and comparisons to nazi germany seems ridiculous.
@realcaseyrollins

@vnarek

Both races are involved. It isnt nazxigermany in the sense of "jews will be sent to concentration camps".. it is nazi germany in the sense that races are getting most of the blame, rights have slowly been dissolved, and fascist power of a centralized state is growing by deflecting its own guilt onto groups of people(largely by race).

The comparison to nazi germany has more to do with the rise of fascism than anything to do with mass murder of a race.

@realcaseyrollins

@freemo @vnarek I still think this is a class thing.

@realcaseyrollins @freemo @vnarek I think it's really a whole combination of things at this point.

@realcaseyrollins

While i think there is a lot of classism going on, and i have no doubt people take their hate for the upper class into these situations, I wouldnt say its the central point.

I mean if we really distill it its the abuse of a police officer of his power killing someone and not getting arrested until days later and huge riots... if you add a little taint to that it is more specifically to some about specifically the color of George's skin and being seen explicitly as the abuse by police of the black community, and thus why BLM is a large defining aspect of the riots.

But beyond that its ahrd for me to see how class could be a central point here. George Floyd's murder had nothing to do with class on any level. The police officer wasnt particularly wealthy (as no police officers were) so not sure how anyone could morph it into a class issue.

@vnarek

@freemo @vnarek Is #BlackLivesMatter really involved? I haven't done too much research, but I hadn't noticed any evidence that they were doing much.

Officially, of course.

@freemo
Again, I disagree with the "largely by race" take. Both races rioted together, looted together. I would say it's a class thing and sadly the upper class is more white.

I don't understand why it's a class thing too. Maybe if we add up the pandemic deprivation and economic situation of the poor it would make more sense.

In my opinion they are multiple groups pushing multiple agendas.
@realcaseyrollins

@vnarek

I think there is a large portion of those rioting and looting who are white. But even they were largely rioting against other whites.

There is a large portion of the left who see whites as the "bad race" and that includes fellow whites.

@realcaseyrollins

@freemo @vnarek Yep. This is what makes it seem like a class thing to me. Otherwise, whites wouldn't fight white in such large numbers.

@realcaseyrollins

Unless we accept that people can be angry at their own race, which seems to be largely the case, and to some extent id even say its justified given the history of whites in america.

@vnarek

@realcaseyrollins @freemo @vnarek lotta self-hating whites out there tbf

@freemo
Yeah, I just don't think they are largely rioting against other whites. They are not targeting whites per se (how do you recognize if its a white shop or black shop?). A saw a lot of videos of burning police cars and stations, big companies. I know it's mostly anecdotal, but right now we can only guess.

Can there be some people who are racist for sure I just dont think its the overall trend.

There is a large portion of the right who see blacks as a "bad race" and that includes fellow blacks.

@realcaseyrollins

@freemo
Yeah when it comes to looting it could be that. I was talking about this incident concretelly.
@realcaseyrollins

@vnarek @freemo I care much more about the violence than the looting, maybe I haven't been paying enough attention to it. I'm specifically speaking on the violence here.

@realcaseyrollins

I dunno, ever case I've seen so far of someone getting their ass beat to a bloody pulp it has been a white guy on the ground and mostly black people in the crowd.

Though again I just think this is because its the makeup of the general population in those areas. Personally i dont think the color of their skin has any effect on their tendency to be violent. Its just who happens to be around where the riots are.

@vnarek

@featherFag
Bet they're glad they didn't get a #Cybertruck.