@alex @shebang Huh. So people wanting to switch might be more of a culture thing than a User Experience thing? Or perhaps those are intertwined.

@realcaseyrollins @alex Well I think there is a culture element, but I’m not interested in that exactly. Its just a combination of things like bad performance vs pleroma, the fact I need to run a fork just to get decent emoji support comparable to pleroma out of the box or get the post size limit upped. Its purely technical.

As for the UI, well that runs fine in Pleroma anyway.

@shebang @alex
> Mastodon is stagnating and becoming obsolete

Interesting. so, you think people will only use software that gradually improves? I suppose this does make sense.

> As for the UI, well that runs fine in Pleroma anyway.

Interesting. So, #Mastodon as a FE will probably never die then

@alex @shebang I hope you succeed! I think it's the only #Mastodon FE alternative that has a good enough user experience + fairly good normie appeal (by which I mean a combination of prettiness and ease of use and understandable design)

@shebang @alex Hmm...is it the interface, or the backend? I actually prefer the #Mastodon interface, it's just way faster on the #Pleroma backend.

I do wonder for those who do not like the interface, why that is. #Mastodon seems to be designed with normies in mind, but to be honest #SoapBox is a lot prettier, is as smooth as any #Pleroma instance would be, and even has more features than #Mastodon. But neither have really caught on.

I look at the #Pleroma interface and go, "man, this looks kinda weird and nerdy", and I wouldn't be surprised if other's felt the same way. I could see people wanting to leave #Mastodon, but honestly I couldn't see them running to #Pleroma. IMHO, design-wise, #Pleroma looks the oldest out of the three, and #SoapBox looks the newest. IDK what the end result is, but it would be nice to see #SoapBox become the new #Mastodon. The #Pleroma interface looks too nerdy to have mass appeal, IMHO

@realcaseyrollins @shebang @alex The Mastodon frontend UI (in advanced view) is pretty nice (reminds me of TweetDeck), but it still has this terrible issue of, if you leave a scroll bar not at the top, your browser will consume 20GB of ram by tomorrow. (I should stop bitching and just write a patch to add a max to columns).

The back end does feel weighty, but the Redis/ES options do provide some speed up. It's all tradeoffs. Pleroma does have a lot of positive performance considerations.

@alex @realcaseyrollins @shebang Interesting. It makes sense. I think back to how Twitter moved from Rails to Scala (and that was they days before Sidekiq workers or microservices).

There's a reason the Erlang VM is used for message passing in big telecos. The JVM can be pretty performant, but it does incur an expensive upfront memory cost.

@djsumdog
Is it true that Pleroma can access exclusively Tor users?

Also does Pleroma use #WebAssembly or only #Javascript?

Thanks in advance.
@alex @realcaseyrollins @shebang

@djsumdog @alex @realcaseyrollins @shebang
We ask because last we checked the Mastodon interface doesn't operate without WebAssembly, and we don't like that.

Tor's highest #Security Level prevents WebAssembly.

@alex
So are you thinking that a streaming service might have tried to fetch some WebAssembly dynamically in order to stream?
@realcaseyrollins @djsumdog @shebang

@alex @realcaseyrollins @djsumdog @shebang
We might be mis-remembering but the entire public timeline would go blank quickly. The whole page - blank.

This did not happen on our profile page. Thats why we were (finally) able to upload a profile pic and cover image.

@alex @shebang Ooh, nice! I'm looking forward to this!

> It pushes posts down the screen while you're trying to read them.

I've been able to circumvent this by scrolling down slightly; it halts the feed and stops the scrolling.

@niggaflamebuttholeaids @shebang @alex Haha I just tried cuckoo.social and had that happen to me, I was like "nope! Can't abide!"