I know #TuckerCarlson's far right and I think he's extreme and I don't agree with everything he says but he makes a lot of sense sometimes
@realcaseyrollins is he really far right? In general he seems like a milquetoast conservative
@coolboymew IDK IIRC he completely opposes immigration
@realcaseyrollins that's what I thought
The thing is, since when is being anti-immigration far right? Wasn't this always a conservative thing until globalism took over
I've always smelled some gaslighting with that kinda thing. There's good reasons, even on the left, to be against immigration one way or another
The thing is, since when is being anti-immigration far right? Wasn't this always a conservative thing until globalism took over
I've always smelled some gaslighting with that kinda thing. There's good reasons, even on the left, to be against immigration one way or another
@coolboymew Interesting. #MichaelSavage is the only conservative guy I know of who supported that position, I thought that was a largely alt-right view.
@realcaseyrollins Many of the classical liberal people I watch have some issues with immigration, and well, especially with the left idea of unrestricted immigration, no borders, etc that's been thrown around in the last few years
Taking a stereotypical approach to the left and right. I'd imagine a right approach to it would be worried about the national identity. As for a leftist argument, a too open immigration system leads to many unskilled workers (or hell, this works even for skilled workers) basically flooding the market and depress wages. Ideally, if nobody would want to work at McDonalds and there was workers shortage, they would have no choice but to actually increase wages naturally by the market demands instead of forcing a new minimum along with sinking everyone else
There's also something to be said, for example, muslism practicing immigrant. A lot of them comes here to escape the bullshit going on with their countries and want no problems. A more unchecked immigration leads to a lot of people coming, and potentially a bunch of problem people coming, practically bringing the problem back to the people who were looking to escape this. And to go with what I said earlier, even more market competition for the people we previously brought in
I'm also of the opinion that the state should be serving the citizen. There's actually a stupid amount of money the state spends on bringing new unskilled citizen that could better be spent anywhere else
At least, that's my 2 cents
Taking a stereotypical approach to the left and right. I'd imagine a right approach to it would be worried about the national identity. As for a leftist argument, a too open immigration system leads to many unskilled workers (or hell, this works even for skilled workers) basically flooding the market and depress wages. Ideally, if nobody would want to work at McDonalds and there was workers shortage, they would have no choice but to actually increase wages naturally by the market demands instead of forcing a new minimum along with sinking everyone else
There's also something to be said, for example, muslism practicing immigrant. A lot of them comes here to escape the bullshit going on with their countries and want no problems. A more unchecked immigration leads to a lot of people coming, and potentially a bunch of problem people coming, practically bringing the problem back to the people who were looking to escape this. And to go with what I said earlier, even more market competition for the people we previously brought in
I'm also of the opinion that the state should be serving the citizen. There's actually a stupid amount of money the state spends on bringing new unskilled citizen that could better be spent anywhere else
At least, that's my 2 cents
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@coolboymew Yeah! I think immigration should meet job demand. I remember a time when there were more unfilled job positions than there unemployed people and so I called for more immigration
