um, do you remember how the Black Codes codified things like gun control for black people?
Im sure it "made sense" to white people to restrict our rights.
But guess what? that set the precedent for gun control laws that extend beyond municipal codes.
If you form a weapon in a soceity like this,eventually the enemy gets his hands on it
Well, is there a better way to apprehend these terrorists? If you go to them when they're in a group, you're get mobbed. Go in a marked vehicle, and the vehicle would probably be stormed.
This does seem pretty harsh, but none of the gentler methods we've tried have been working so far. Is there a better solution?
> do you remember how the Black Codes codified things like gun control for black people?
I didn't study those all to well, but weren't those discriminatory laws? Current legal precedent prevents those from being created anymore. Seems to me that the issue with the law and the methods of apprehension are a little bit different and not very relevant to this discussion.
Donut Operator did a really good video showing some of these people and what they've been doing, along with the weapons that have been found on them.
@Cyph Wait they were? I didn't hear that. But this does seem to be true. Thanks for letting me know.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/
first of all ,we already lost against groups like these because we deferred too much responsibility of public safety to these feds and these pigs. With that power, they deincentized any sort of armed self defense by citizens with gun control. The fact that unmarked feds doing snatch and grabs is a viable idea in a country supposedly against fascism should be telling.
Portland citizens arent afforded every opportunity,
http://nwnw.org/oregon-gun-laws/#:~:text=Portland's%20gun%20rules&text=Unless%20you%20have%20a%20concealed,of%20property%20or%20another%20person.
@Cyph So...you're saying we need to change gun laws instead of bringing in the feds? There are a few hurdles here:
1. The lawmakers wouldn't pass a bill to change the laws
2. If they did, people who defend themselves against #antifa are getting arrested instead of the terrorists. Defending yourself means jail time.
3. Ignoring the last two hurdles, there's a massive gun shortage rn
That's not a viable option to stop #antifa. I agree that the gun laws need to change of course, but it's not an appropriate response to #antifa, especially not at this time.
feds snatching and grabbing people not committing a crime isnt a viable solution either. And if it's allowed, it wouldnt just stop at antifa.
@Cyph Wait it's legal to be part of a terrorist organization? That's news to me.
how are you supposed to tell some random on the street is antifa if they dont have any identifying logos on them?
apparently, the feds let them go right away, too
they suck at the job they are supposed to be doing.
@Cyph We've actually been giving the citizens every opportunity to do this, for over a month. It failed. Time for plan b. 😎