@realcaseyrollins Trump is awful. no reason to support him at this point
@realcaseyrollins ok, outside of being an accelerationist or racist.
@realcaseyrollins I don't care what he thinks personally honestly, I care about his actions.

Most racists support him.

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> I don't care what he thinks personally honestly, I care about his actions.

Yeah, same, that's why I'm voting for him.

> Most racists support him.

Not much I can do about that lol

@realcaseyrollins most racists support him because of his policies.

I'm curious - what policies of his do you like?

@mewmew

Well, there's immigration, supreme court picks, building up the military, lowering taxes, supporting peace, law & order, his efforts in prison reform, his unprecedented efforts to pull troops back home from overseas and not starting any further conflicts (low bar, but one more recent presidents have not reached)...there's more but that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

it's not like he's perfect, but he's doing a dang good job.

@realcaseyrollins his immigration policies are pretty bad and a waste of time and money.

did you watch the Kavanaugh hearings?

building up the military is a waste of money.

the benefits of his lower-taxes mainly go to the ultra-rich, while driving us into a deeper deficit.

he hasn't supported "peace" or "law & order" in any actually meaningful way.

he entered the government back into contracts with private prisons. that's the opposite direction that we need to be going.

you may have a point with bringing troops home, but I doubt Trump is the only one to do that.
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> his immigration policies are pretty bad

How are they bad?

> waste of time and money.

Why?

> building up the military is a waste of money.

> the benefits of his lower-taxes mainly go to the ultra-rich

Define "rich", because these "rich" people I've seen who are benefiting from the tax cuts are actually middle class people like me, and people even poorer than I.

> he hasn't supported "peace" or "law & order" in any actually meaningful way.

False, see here:

Openly condemning violence and promoting peace: youtube.com/watch?v=0P40rSPTRK

Opposing the movement: nytimes.com/2020/07/13/us/poli

Sending in law enforcement to restore law and order on federal land:
kgw.com/article/news/investiga
youtu.be/5EgMijMhS_U

> he entered the government back into contracts with private prisons. that's the opposite direction that we need to be going.

Fair. I'm referring to his pardons of largely black people who were serving extremely long sentences for non-violent drug charges.

> you may have a point with bringing troops home, but I doubt Trump is the only one to do that.

He's definitely not, but neither Obama nor Bush have tried this hard to get our troops home.

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@realcaseyrollins @mewmew why do Americans talk so much about this stuff. Just go vote while knowing that the heat death of the universe is unavoidable
@realcaseyrollins his immigration policies divided families and children.

besides, as a country, we should generally not have strict immigration policies. they're not beneficial and they're unamerican.

military spending is a waste of money, we spend far more than Russia, China, etc. we're not fighting WWIII here. we could use that money for many better things.

the people who benefit from his tax cuts mainly are the rich. you might temporarily benefit, but not nearly as much.

condemning violence is a very low bar here. he's also said things such as "when the looting starts, the shooting starts".

opposing defunding the police is not a good thing. the police are far too big and money should be redirected to other causes.

the federal officers who are in Portland are not there with the consent of the local government. I can't arrest people just because they're looting my house. the troops there are just making things worse, they aren't solving anything.

if he has made those pardons, I don't have a problem with that.

and I agree with you on Obama and Bush not doing enough - but Trump was in a much easier position.
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what do you do with the children when a family is found committing a crime together? also, not his creation, but there are no good answers.

Why shouldn't you have strict immigration policies? And how is it unamerican? america has never been completely one way or the other, its always adjusted to the times and its needs, and right now i think america could use less immigration.

military spending is always necessary because there are always enemies, how much spending is the key issue.

the middle and lower class will never benefit as much as the rich in anything. stop thinking of it as a zero sum game and worry about your own wallet. how much are you affected by the tax cuts?

aint nothing wrong with self-defense. if someone comes after my property, they made the choice to put their life at risk. they are neither entitled to my property nor should i be obligated to hand it over to prevent further violence.

fund the police! how can people complain that they dont get enough or proper training while also saying give them less resources??? and the police def isn't too big. its too big when there is a cop outside my house and one is sitting at the dinner table with me. being hyperbolic obv, but no, the police isn't too big right now.

why can't you arrest people who are looting your house? hell, if they are looting your house, it should be your right to shoot them.
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> Why shouldn't you have strict immigration policies? And how is it unamerican? america has never been completely one way or the other, its always adjusted to the times and its needs, and right now i think america could use less immigration.

We're a country founded due to immigration and we don't need less immigration.

> military spending is always necessary because there are always enemies, how much spending is the key issue.

Yes, and we are spending far too much.

> the middle and lower class will never benefit as much as the rich in anything. stop thinking of it as a zero sum game and worry about your own wallet. how much are you affected by the tax cuts?

That's not the only consideration. Money doesn't come out of nowhere. We should be raising taxes to cover more public services such as healthcare.

you are not the government. the government should be held to higher standards than you are.

> fund the police! how can people complain that they dont get enough or proper training while also saying give them less resources??? and the police def isn't too big. its too big when there is a cop outside my house and one is sitting at the dinner table with me. being hyperbolic obv, but no, the police isn't too big right now.

why do you want to live in a police state?
@mewmew @realcaseyrollins a country founded on something doesn't mean that thing needs to always exist in the same or increased capacity forever and ever, eternally. Immigration was necessary then to build the nation "America" because there were literally NONE of them there before. Seeing as how there are quite a bit of Americans there now, I would say that they should only be taking as much as they need, a bit more if they are feeling generous.
@Locksmith @mewmew @realcaseyrollins Germany wasn't founded. We just kinda existed and then we killed Romans and then eachother and eachother and the French and eachother and then uuuh
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Money doesn't come out of nowhere of course, but more taxes discourages growth. increase it and watch the businesses move out of the states or shrivel up and die. you need to find a way to work with the businesses to find a way to increase tax revenue while also making it one of, if not the best, places to operate.

i don't want to live in a police state. i also don't want to live in a lawless country where the literal only option is self defense.
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