@tfmonkey Not sure why you call Sargon center left. Are you only familiar with his old anti-feminist videos? Listen to his Lotus Eaters podcast. He's getting accused of being a trad cuck now.
https://youtu.be/nCUK99e1Qeo

@ButtWorldsMan He calls himself center left.

@tfmonkey how recent was that claim?

@ButtWorldsMan @tfmonkey

He uses the term classical Liberal more often. I'm sure you can find a video easily of him calling himself one.

But classical Liberal is a pretty broad term that can mean a lot of different things to different people.

To some people it means a center leftist. Who believes in freedom with a safety net.

To others it is basically an old fashioned libertarian who believed in economic freedom and such. Back during the industrial revolution era

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

@Publius @tfmonkey I'm assuming TFM won't listen to the video. The point is Carl has people assmad at him, and saying he's indistinguishable from a religious trad because he says, unironically, that women have a duty to society to reproduce and perpetrate the civilization they prosper under. Got a lot of women assmad, hence the title of the video. I'm telling him in discord he stands accused of being center left. He finds it amusing.

@ButtWorldsMan @Publius I watched the video. It doesn't prove anything. Having the far left mad at you for not being progressive enough doesn't mean you're not center-left.

@tfmonkey @ButtWorldsMan

Perhaps the Overton window is why there is a disagreement. Inside the Overton window, Sargon is far right and thus probably has begun to identify as such.

You are so incredibly far out of the Overton window TFM that you have the big picture view that everything in socially acceptable politics is left wing.

Sargon and TFM are simply from different worlds. Sargon cares about being politically relevant for his commentary. TFM has basically written off society.

@Publius @ButtWorldsMan I have nothing against Sargon. I'm subbed to him and even catch his Lotus Eaters podcast from time to time.

I'm just pretty much done with politics. There is no path where things can get better. The best outcome is the right slows the Left down a bit, but my time is better spent elsewhere.

@tfmonkey Not to shit on you, but it's amusing that you claim to be done with politics when I'm listening to your latest Morning Constitutional which is 100% politics.

@ButtWorldsMan One has to be situationally aware, but I no longer have a dog in this fight.

I no longer have a "side" to support.

@tfmonkey Politically homeless. I'm there too bro.

@ButtWorldsMan @tfmonkey well, you could just turn to substantive centrism, aka Fascism, i.e. to upholding the nation-state, natural/traditional virtues, hierarchy, hbd (sex & race differences & roles, plus their basic implications)...

aka the moderate branch of the hard/dissident/alt/far right