@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 Yes in order to assert absolute morality you would have to kill everyone who believes otherwise, and in so doing you have proven the correctness of your view through the annihilation of all other perspectives.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
>Yes in order to assert absolute morality you would have to kill everyone who believes otherwise,
Probably not, no. A lot of them, but not all of them. You can also do things like put them in prison, and many of them will just go along with it.
>and in so doing you have proven the correctness of your view through the annihilation of all other perspectives.
That doesn't prove it correct. That's not how being correct works. You aren't correct just because you win.
>Yes in order to assert absolute morality you would have to kill everyone who believes otherwise,
Probably not, no. A lot of them, but not all of them. You can also do things like put them in prison, and many of them will just go along with it.
>and in so doing you have proven the correctness of your view through the annihilation of all other perspectives.
That doesn't prove it correct. That's not how being correct works. You aren't correct just because you win.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
By winning you prove that your view is the correct one and that your God is thee strongest above all others, thus has the power to dictate absolute moral standards over all mortals.
By winning you prove that your view is the correct one and that your God is thee strongest above all others, thus has the power to dictate absolute moral standards over all mortals.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
>By winning you prove that your view is the correct one
How does A prove B?
>thus has the power to dictate absolute moral standards over all mortals.
You don't need power to do that, you need authority. No amount of power can make a moral.
>By winning you prove that your view is the correct one
How does A prove B?
>thus has the power to dictate absolute moral standards over all mortals.
You don't need power to do that, you need authority. No amount of power can make a moral.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 You cannot have authority without power.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 Of course you can. Every dethroned King in history had authority without power.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 As soon as they are dethroned they no longer have authority and usually just have their head put on a spike.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
>i will google the word you are using and autistically hold you to this literal definition haha got em
You argue like a huge fag.
By authority I mean the moral right to control something, rightful ownership of it.
>i will google the word you are using and autistically hold you to this literal definition haha got em
You argue like a huge fag.
By authority I mean the moral right to control something, rightful ownership of it.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 If I overthrow the ruler, I have the rightful ownership because I have the power.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
No. If you overthrow the ruler, you have ownership. You do not have rightful ownership. You have power, but not authority.
No. If you overthrow the ruler, you have ownership. You do not have rightful ownership. You have power, but not authority.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
Tell that to King Louis XVI before getting beheaded by the people who overthrew him.
Tell that to King Louis XVI before getting beheaded by the people who overthrew him.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 Weird how those people had a legitimacy crisis that lasted years until someone with authority came along.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 If a king is overthrown he has lost the mandate of heaven.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 Not necessarily, no.
Your argument here is basically "Only good things happen." That's dumb. Bad things happen too.
Your argument here is basically "Only good things happen." That's dumb. Bad things happen too.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 Good and bad is just a matter of perspective.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 There is an ultimate perspective, called God, and in that perspective things are good or bad.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 God's opinions are facts. He knows everything and is incapable of lying.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 How do you know what "God" cares about?
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 That's an entirely different discussion.
He exists, and he surely cares about something.
He exists, and he surely cares about something.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 You are the one claiming absolute morality, so your "God" must have communicated what he cares about somewhere.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
I claimed the existence of an absolute morality. I didn't say what it is.
I claimed the existence of an absolute morality. I didn't say what it is.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
Do you have any proof that Absolute morality exists?
Do you have any proof that Absolute morality exists?
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
I don't need any, it's necessarily true.
If no absolute morality exists, then it is absolutely true that no morality exists.
An absolute morality necessarily exists. It's not arguable. The only question is what it is.
I don't need any, it's necessarily true.
If no absolute morality exists, then it is absolutely true that no morality exists.
An absolute morality necessarily exists. It's not arguable. The only question is what it is.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 So what you are saying is that you are agnostic as to the existence of absolute morality.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 No, that's in fact the exact opposite of what I am saying.
You seem really bad at listening.
You seem really bad at listening.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 So the absolute morality is that there is no morality then.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 That would be an absolute morality. All available options are absolute moralities. Therefore, regardless of what it may be, we know there is some absolute morality.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 So there is no morality. Great I see you are convinced.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 If there is no morality then that is the morality. "No morality" is internally contradictory. The absence of a law is itself a law.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
There is some way that things are.
There is some way that things are.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 And there is a way things are not.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 Yes. So it's not possible for there to be no way things are.
The existence of absolute morality is inarguable. The onlyqurstion is what it is.
The existence of absolute morality is inarguable. The onlyqurstion is what it is.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
Well considering we have been arguing on it's existence, apparently it is arguable.
Well considering we have been arguing on it's existence, apparently it is arguable.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 You can argue inarguable things if you're willing to be completely and shamelessly nonsensical like you are.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
"Blue things are blue" is inarguable but I'm sure you can find a retard to argue with you about it.
"Blue things are blue" is inarguable but I'm sure you can find a retard to argue with you about it.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 Blue things are blue if you can see the color blue. It might look black to somebody else.
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@LorgarAurelian1488 @Mogami @rasterman @NEETzsche @Eris @ew @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @inorez@neckbeard.xyz @WhiteTemplar @AR-15 @Brutus @DK_Dharmaraj @racism_man If it reflects a blue wavelength, then it's blue.
@xianc78 @LorgarAurelian1488 @Mogami @rasterman @NEETzsche @ew @ChristiJunior @inorez @WhiteTemplar @AR-15 @Brutus @DK_Dharmaraj @racism_man It's not that fuckin deep.
@xianc78 @Mogami @rasterman @NEETzsche @Eris @ew @ChristiJunior @inorez @WhiteTemplar @AR-15 @Brutus @DK_Dharmaraj @racism_man White objects reflect the blue wavelengh, are they blue also?
@LorgarAurelian1488 @xianc78 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman Now we're unironically deconstructing what blue means. Do you have any shame?
@Eris Here’s something that will drive you insane, but it’s also correct. Logic might be wrong. See, it’s a thought process that humans evolved over millions of years. It was created through adaptation. So what we think is entirely sound – things like 2+2=4 – might be retard shit without even realizing it.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
@NEETzsche @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @LorgarAurelian1488 @Mogami @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
We might be sentient farts cursed by demons to think we're humans.
"Might be" isn't interesting. Tell me what is.
We might be sentient farts cursed by demons to think we're humans.
"Might be" isn't interesting. Tell me what is.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @Mogami @rasterman @NEETzsche @Eris @ew @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @inorez@neckbeard.xyz @WhiteTemplar @AR-15 @Brutus @DK_Dharmaraj @racism_man Well, white is the presence of all color, so yes.
@Eris @xianc78 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman So are purple, green, and white things are also blue.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 When you told me hours ago that you aren't a troll, you were lying.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 I haven't lied, you are just bad at arguing.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 You are deliberately making dumb arguments to annoy me.
@Eris @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 People who argued that the earth was the center of the universe also thought Galileo was dumb.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78 See dude. That's obviously trolling.
@LorgarAurelian1488 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman @xianc78
You literally cannot convince me that you are seriously arguing with what blue means.
I will not believe it.
This is not real.
Literally no one would fucking do that for real.
You literally cannot convince me that you are seriously arguing with what blue means.
I will not believe it.
This is not real.
Literally no one would fucking do that for real.
@xianc78 @AR-15 @Brutus @ChristiJunior @DK_Dharmaraj @LorgarAurelian1488 @Mogami @NEETzsche @WhiteTemplar @ew @inorez @racism_man @rasterman For literally any definition of blue this is true.
It's called a tautology.
You fucking retards.
It's called a tautology.
You fucking retards.
