if you don’t have an mRNA 💉, are you optimistic about novavax

@icedquinn It just uses modified moth cells. If it is modified to just have the spike protein, I still think it can cause ADE.

@xianc78 they use moths to grow the spikes and then some tree sap extract as an adjuvant.

no peglyated bullshit that travels to your balls/cervix/brain/heart :blobcatthink:
@xianc78 i read oneo f their reports last night where they were checking on 6mo boosters. they said it was very effective but the report did not say what the efficacy without the booster is.

the efficacy rolloff without boosters is gonna have a lot to say about my decision.
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@icedquinn I don't know. If I had to take a vaccine, I would probably consider Novavax, but then again it should take years to develop a vaccine. I know this technology is already used unlike the mRNA ones, but it hasn't been used for a coronavirus before.

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@xianc78 no but they don't have a history of being convicted for bribery and they're following all of the established research standards.

i would say "cautiously optimistic with reservations."

clinical trial design 

@xianc78 i do have a prime complaint with all of the R&D projects though.

my complaint here is that HQC, Iver and Budesonide et all have to follow a strict standard of proving they sterilize an active infection. you have to have a PCR+, intervention, then PCR-, to claim efficacy. the 💉 are declared effective because "less people complained about symptoms in the trial group." that's .. really not acceptable IMHO. they should be doing monthly PCRs on both groups to establish efficacy.

@icedquinn There is also the ethical issue of giving in to the system. I really hate this vaccine passport system and I don't think it's going to go away once this scamdemic is officially declared over.

@xianc78 the system may not even accept them because their executives are not all members of the CFR.
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