I really should stop forgetting that people do not know XML.
@sjw Neither is a hammer, but when used correctly it's a great tool.
@sjw You're comparing a screwdriver and a hammer.

You do not know XML.
@sjw Yeah, and?

A lot of people, feed readers/aggregators included can't hep but butcher it into JSON.

Which are entirely different kinds of data formats.

XML is for text-based extensible formats.
JSON is just, here, basic raw text-based data structure.
For example, you entirely loose the extensibility bits with JSON.

This is probably the whole reason why Google wants to do create JSON feeds, 3rd part of EEE.
@lanodan doesn't XMPP use XML too? Also, how exactly do you lose the extendability with json?

@sjw You only have one namespace.

JSON formats are cathedral style by essense, only one entity can say if you can use something or not. Meanwhile XML doesn’t gives a damn if you shove another namespace (which can be your own) inside of it. That’s an inheritance from SGML btw and it allowed for HTML5 to effectively be able to add new elements without every non-up-to-date browser potentially choking on it or failing to fallback to older style elements.

Like roughly <video src="https://example.org/video.mp4"><object src="https://example.org/video.mp4"><a href="https://example.org/video.mp4">video.mp4</a></object></video> can’t be done in JSON, while that would work from the first web browser to the very latest with probably okay compatibility for Mozilla 1.0.

@lanodan Huh, yeah, I see what you mean. I just think it's ugly. :akko_shrug:
@sjw Well, I gave a webshit example.

HTML5 shouldn't have existed IMHO.
@lanodan Gemini Pleroma FE when?
Pleroma should support the finger protocol too.
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@sjw @lanodan How about a post via SMS feature like what Twitter has (or used to have). Instances would have to configure it themselves (I don't know how it would work), but it would be pretty cool.

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> Post via SMS

Twitter did this thing via partnerships with phone companies, I don't see this kind of thing existing in the fediverse unless maybe your phone operator sets up their instance.
@xianc78 @sjw The problem isn't the software.
It's the sheer amount of messages, "unlimited messages" always have rate limiting and it's a huge expensive mess to do it internationally.

It's very much like email, want to host your shit and send few emails a week at most? No problem in 99% of the cases.

Want to send something like thousands in a day?
Now you're going to have troubles.

@lanodan @sjw I don't think many people are going to use it. It's probably going to be mostly used by people with feature phones.

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