Not making excuses for Russia
@Moon I was just thinking back to the early 2000s and how collectively retarded we were a few days before this war kicked off. Now I get to see that we're still collectively retarded. Serves me right for having a little faith in humanity.
@mrsaturday At least we had sane people saying don't attack random Muslims that time.
@Moon @mrsaturday ethnic tensions always prevail over religious ones
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@allison @Moon @mrsaturday I don't know. Islamaphobia seems to be less taboo than racism and is still acceptable among many conservatives.
@xianc78 @allison @mrsaturday I'm pretty down on Islam but I don't let it poison my brain about individuals.
@Moon @allison @mrsaturday I don't like the hijab and I especially hate how neolibs have glorified it.
@Moon @xianc78 @allison @mrsaturday Islam is very contextual. Smart, educated (in the traditional sense, not college-indoctrinated) muslims tend to be pleasant people to talk with and can generally hold an agreement over time, it's part of why saudis get a pass, besides economic reasons. Their dregs however are a completely different story, they're worse than christian dregs because on top of profit or drugs induced violence they'll also randomly attack people over their broken interpretation of faith.
Dealing with them is extremely easy though. Them on their land, we on ours, everyone happy but the antichrist.
Dealing with them is extremely easy though. Them on their land, we on ours, everyone happy but the antichrist.
@nerthos @allison @Moon @mrsaturday I usually only see Muslims on my campus. College-indoctrinated Muslims are the only ones I know.
@xianc78 @allison @Moon @mrsaturday There are a few traditionalist but smart muslims around fedi, my experience with them is good. Same with the ones I've seen IRL, though haven't seen a lot of those since there are few in my region.
Bottom line they want the same as us, to be allowed to live on their own terms, and same as us, they're prevented from doing so by the retarded hordes.
Human conflict is not about creed, it's about IQ most of the time.
Bottom line they want the same as us, to be allowed to live on their own terms, and same as us, they're prevented from doing so by the retarded hordes.
Human conflict is not about creed, it's about IQ most of the time.
@allison @xianc78 @Moon @mrsaturday It's fading in Europe for sure as they're seeing the failed policies of refugee acceptance. It doesn't matter in America very much; our Muslim population is much more secular ... still, I know people back in high school who claimed they'd commit honor killings if their sister ever had sex or was raped 😬
@djsumdog @allison @mrsaturday @xianc78 > our Muslim population is much more secular
I think this is less true since Iraq and we seriously ramped up taking in refugees.
I think this is less true since Iraq and we seriously ramped up taking in refugees.
@Moon @djsumdog @xianc78 @mrsaturday It's still true here in MI at least, even the Muslim ghettos like Hamtramck are overall not to the right of what, say, a Polish Catholic would believe
@allison @djsumdog @mrsaturday @xianc78 I've seen Christian missionaries mobbed in Dearborn. Never gets reported.
@allison @djsumdog @mrsaturday @xianc78 In general though I agree it's still better than Europe, but it's changing. third generation doesn't even believe it.
@Moon @djsumdog @xianc78 @mrsaturday Looking up cases in Hamtramck now and jfc, I didn't need that headline in my life today (and yeah, I would believe the thing about Dearborn since it absolutely does have a fair amount of hardliners)
