@cee You should look into the history of the technocracy movement (basically the precursor to all this Great Reset/Agenda 2021 shit). They proposed replacing money with a concept called "energy credits" which measures all products and services by the energy required to produce them. Everyone gets a set of energy credits every month and if your out then you are out for the rest of the month.

I think UBI is just going to lead to this proposed system again.

@xianc78 i mean, that's why im not a SocDem and dont actively promote the UBI- it is a band-aid, not a cure. That's also why i prefer the LVT (in a temporal sense), as it guarantees property rights for both individuals and collectives.
As rebuttal, sure, i get the rejection of all taxes... i believe tax evasion is best done as protest against war or an an unjust law. The single tax should be voluntary; it can be done like the Danish model, or doesnt have to be for the UBI, could be just to cover the basics like public transport and healthcare, thats it. Defs not to be used for funding state organised mass-murders, screw that.

@cee Well as a panarchist, if people want to subscribe to a legal entity that has UBI, then that's fine. But I see proponents of UBI saying that it should be a global thing, as in a world government should be doing it. The EU has even considered it and it's commonly favored by World Federalists.

@xianc78 100%
UBI alone, doesnt guarantee property rights, doesnt solve the housing crisis and prevent coercion from the bailiffs.

But yeah, Henry D Thoreau and Lysander Spooner were the OG tax evaders, love their work.

@cee And my problem with the land value tax is that land value is subjective just like the value of labor or anything else.