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@cnx I'm out of the loop. (haven't really published anything to GitHub in years due to being busy with college) What's going on at GitHub?

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@xianc78, I was mocking its stupid design of team tagging which also subscribe members to the thread without any possible opt-out by future repliers or admins.

The loop you were probably referring is probably an unrelated issue though, with Microsoft (which acquired the mentioned forge) built a fuzzy code searcher and relicensor called CoPilot. It’s basically a Markovian autocompleter that’s very likely to give you a large chunk of code which is marketed as machine-generated and thus includable into any codebase, disregarding the original license.

Some say we should #GiveUpGitHub because its term of service may be interpreted twistedly (usual corp bullshit) to allow teaching the machine the software hosted there. Personally, given the proprietary nature, it could also crawl from all the Internet and we can’t tell. The forge should be avoided for it’s anti-git nature, spooky privacy policy, social-media-wannabe features and most importantly, near monopolistic power. Though if a project moved to another forge for any other reason, I’m still as happy.

@cnx Well everything I have on there is public domain anyway (I was a teenager and under the impression that minors can't hold copyright) and they are just bad clones of Atari 2600 games written in Python.

Though since, I'm going back to programming projects what alternatives do you suggest? I know there's GitLab but I heard it's behind CloudFlare and I can't self-host my own Git server right now.

@xianc78 @cnx You can easily host your own Gitea server though, GitLab should only be done if you have at least 512 GiB of RAM on your server, because it's this bloated.

And perhaps soon you will have no other option than to host your own server, because everything is going behind CuckFlare, everything is getting hosted on AWS, everything is getting a censorious as fuck TOS, and so on.

@xianc78, if you don’t need CI/CD, pick a Gitea instance with reasonable financial model and terms; on the top of my head there are Disroot, envs.net and NixNet.

Otherwise your choices would narrow down to sr.ht (SourceHut), Codeberg (Gitea+Woodpecker) and a good GitLab instance (e.g. Framagit). CI/CD is costly so I’d recommend paying a few bucks a month to keep those services alive, unless you’re still a student.

@cnx I know that some GitLab instances allow static site hosting for projects just like GitHub, which is a plus for me. I don't know if Gitea has this though.

I already use Disroot for XMPP (which I rarely use). Their TOS seems a bit too restrictive last time I checked, and the background pictures of some of their pages give off antifa vibes despite them claiming to allow anyone regardless of ideology.

@xianc78 @cnx Microshaft owns it, and uses your open source code for their proprietary crap.
All you need to know about Github basically.
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